[Polpolion]

And I'm willing to fight to the death to defend that view. Nay, make it, fight BEYOND death..I'll even bet my eternal soul!

I'm dropping the subject. You happy now?

Nice.

[jdjtcagle]

[TrashMan]

And I'm willing to fight to the death to defend that view. Nay, make it, fight BEYOND death..I'll even bet my eternal soul!

I'm dropping the subject. You happy now?

Nice.

Dropping the subject is not the same as telling the other guy he is right.

It's more like "I know I'm right and I'll defend that position, but now is not the time or the place...so  I won't talk about...for now...here."

Common good and all that jazz.

[karajorma]

And I'm willing to fight to the death to defend that view. Nay, make it, fight BEYOND death..I'll even bet my eternal soul!

I'm dropping the subject. You happy now?

Nice.

Best laugh I've had all day.

[TrashMan]

I like to make people laugh

[Colonol Dekker]

I dunno what this is all about but i find it entertaining nonetheless. It seems there's a lot of history behind it but it also looks like it's run it's course (hopefully). . . .

[Goober5000]

Nah, he's only on his 8th post.  Once he hits 10 we'll monkey him and that'll be the end of it.

Unless he's willing to concede that a) he was wrong about the FLDS case; and b) we were fully justified in banning him.  Or he stops posting in this thread before reaching 10.  But I very much doubt any of those three possibilities will happen.

I do appreciate thesizzler summing up that post. It succinctly captures TrashMan's impotent posturing amid logical incoherence.

[TrashMan]

Nah, he's only on his 8th post.  Once he hits 10 we'll monkey him and that'll be the end of it.

Unless he's willing to concede that a) he was wrong about the FLDS case; and b) we were fully justified in banning him.  Or he stops posting in this thread before reaching 10.  But I very much doubt any of those three possibilities will happen.

NEVAR!  Only in your dreams!
Both a) and b) are totally wrong ... Oh and this is no 9..I'm counting too

I do appreciate thesizzler summing up that post. It succinctly captures TrashMan's impotent posturing amid logical incoherence.

Isn't logic a funny little thing? How multi-sided, how .."lost" sometimes on some people..or at least appears to be.



EDIT: (still 9)

Defending a position implies an active plight to prove just how your position is correct, not just ignoring everyone with a contradicting viewpoint. While on blue-moon rarity, someone may genuinely end an argument because they see it's getting out of hand, 99% percent of the time it's just a convenient way to give up without the other side winning. In fact, it's become so common, that the other side practically has won when that happens. Noting your contradictions in your post, we are lead to believe that this situation is a member of the vast majority of times (well actually I'm not sure if this is ad hominem or not, but I'm not the greatest at this).

Defending something implies providing proof that you are correct. If the other side (or both sides) choses to ignore or not believe that, then that's pretty much everything one can do. The defense has done it's job.
I could repeat myself 200 times, but what's the point? The facts are there for anyone who is interested in the truth. It doesn't take a genious to notice that the "offending post" was an excuse, not the reason.

And in case you haven't noticed, I'm in a lose-lose situation here (more or less). If I persist, I'll get accused of trolling or get banned. If I pull out, I'll get accused of cowardice and loosing (brillisnt logic here I might add. Who cares about the facts, whoever pulls out first, loses)
. Not that baning means much to me at this point, but it's better to be here when more mud is thrown my way..at least I can defend myself to a degree from the negative image that's being painted of me.


@Kaj - I'm not leaving instantly. I still got a lot of free time on my hands and HLP has been my daily stop for...8 years?. Old habbits die hard.. it's like quiting smoking - you first reduce the number of smokes a day, then quit.

[colecampbell666]

You can't let it go. 9...

[blowfish]

I actually think banning was a *little* harsh in that situation ... monkeying would not be in this situation, however.

[karajorma]

You can't let it go. 9...

Of course not. The "I am leaving" ploy is a classic one.

I actually think banning was a *little* harsh in that situation ... monkeying would not be in this situation, however.

Bear in mind that it was simply the last of a long line of such occurrences.

[General Battuta]

It'll be interesting to see what he (Trashman) thinks of his own posts a few years from now. I wonder if maturity will change his viewpoint on his behavior?

[Polpolion]

And I'm willing to fight to the death to defend that view. Nay, make it, fight BEYOND death..I'll even bet my eternal soul!

I'm dropping the subject. You happy now?

Nice.

Dropping the subject is not the same as telling the other guy he is right.

It's more like "I know I'm right and I'll defend that position, but now is not the time or the place...so  I won't talk about...for now...here."

Common good and all that jazz.

Defending a position implies an active plight to prove just how your position is correct, not just ignoring everyone with a contradicting viewpoint. While on blue-moon rarity, someone may genuinely end an argument because they see it's getting out of hand, 99% percent of the time it's just a convenient way to give up without the other side winning. In fact, it's become so common, that the other side practically has won when that happens. Noting your contradictions in your post, we are lead to believe that this situation is a member of the vast majority of times (well actually I'm not sure if this is ad hominem or not, but I'm not the greatest at this).

And given the fact that the HLP admins already won and the quoted post was your last serious attempt at defending yourself, there is really no reason to monkey you because you've already subconsciously admitted defeat and haven't actually done anything wrong since the debate ended. Of course, that said, I'm not quite sure why I'm saying this, unless I'm wrong and we actually haven't won, which leads me to believe that the victor of debates is highly subjective, and while one side may appear to be pretty much dead, the debate isn't over until both are satisfied that they've done all they can do.

Thus, it must be asked: Can the admins monkey trashman for failing at logic?

...



EDIT:

It'll be interesting to see what he (Trashman) thinks of his own posts a few years from now. I wonder if maturity will change his viewpoint on his behavior?

If he's anything like a normal person, then he'll think he's the dumbest person alive. If anyone doesn't think they were an idiot a year or two ago, then they're probably not learning enough. Goodness knows I was stupid back then, and I'll likely think the same in the coming years.

[Vretsu]

If he's anything like a normal person, then he'll think he's the dumbest person alive. If anyone doesn't think they were an idiot a year or two ago, then they're probably not learning enough. Goodness knows I was stupid back then, and I'll likely think the same in the coming years.

Much of the horror of life stems from the fact that this process, while highly educational, never stops.

[Colonol Dekker]

And by the time you learn enough to earn contemptment and peace. . . . . .you're too old to appreciate it and you get stuck in a home.
I've no idea what the FLDS issue is so i shall leave this topic to avoid confounding issues.

[jdjtcagle]

It'll be interesting to see what he (Trashman) thinks of his own posts a few years from now. I wonder if maturity will change his viewpoint on his behavior?

It did for me when I first left HLP...

[Goober5000]

EDIT: (still 9)

That qualifies as a tenth post.  You replied to something that was posted nearly 13 hours afterward.

Enjoy the simian society for a week.

[jdjtcagle]

So that's what not to do...

Ironically monkeyed in 10 posts

[Goober5000]

There's nothing ironic about it.  He had BlackDove as precedent, and we warned him ahead of time, and he still persisted in his ape-like antics.

[Polpolion]

Well seeing as how Trashman's monkeyed, it would be rather pointless to continue the debate. I guess I only get to win by default...