[Charismatic]

Besides, in over 300 years im sure we'd come up with something more powerful that the H-Bomb or Neutron Bomb

Meson bomb.

[Kie99]

On the other hand, nukes have their uses.

- use em to mine asteroids, then set em of when the enemy is in range,
- Load a ship with them, then ram it into the target
- Use them in upperatmosphere to trigger EMPs > very devestaing in a computer dependant society
- Infiltrate an enemy ship with one and have it go off, destroying the ship

I take my lessons in interesting uses of nukes from John "Nuke 'em" Sheridan - the man who knows his nukes

Besides, in over 300 years im sure we'd come up with something more powerful that the H-Bomb or Neutron Bomb

IIRC the Helios is at least 200 times more powerful than the largest bomb ever detonated on Earth as of today.

[eliex]

And while a bomb 200 times weaker can blow up whole cities the Helios can't even damage a 16m fighter with shielding . . . 

[S-99]

Beams can't be intercepted unlike bombs. I'd still use beams.

[Androgeos Exeunt]

And while a bomb 200 times weaker can blow up whole cities the Helios can't even damage a 16m fighter with shielding . . . 

Actually, dual Helios can obliterate a Fenris cruiser. When used against a Ulysses...

[Scotty]

It doesn't kill it.  Beams do.  Yay beams!

[azile0]

Well, I am all for seeing a "Missile Cruiser" That is primarily an anti-capship, and has a long barrel in the front, and fires torpedoes. After, what is a Railgun from Blue Planet than a missile? It's still a projectile, and creates a good amount of splash. I would love to make a torpedo custom-made for the Missile Cruiser, and implement it. Or is there already something like that?

[General Battuta]

Well, I am all for seeing a "Missile Cruiser" That is primarily an anti-capship, and has a long barrel in the front, and fires torpedoes. After, what is a Railgun from Blue Planet than a missile? It's still a projectile, and creates a good amount of splash. I would love to make a torpedo custom-made for the Missile Cruiser, and implement it. Or is there already something like that?

A railgun is an unpowered projectile after launch.

Missiles are self-powered projectiles.

As for missile cruisers, check out the Garm. I forget who made it.

[Droid803]

Garm was made by ShadowGorrath, textured and converted by Esarai.
It's not purely a missile cruiser though, as it has 2 beam turrets on it as well.
There's the missile cruiser in 158th test data, and I believe there was one made by StratComm as well (Ajax, I think it was).

[Kosh]

FS2 blobs are slow though ... and have less damage potential than beams, even for a stationary target.

Blobs are only useful against cap ships, bombs, slow bombers, and any pilots stupid enough to fly in a straight line. That's it. Any halfway decent pilot flying something like a dragon or a thoth could very easily dodge them. In FS2 both of them get pwn3d pretty bad by anti-fighter beams.

[blowfish]

My point is that the blobs in FS2 are balanced to be weaker than the beams.  That doesn't mean that all blobs are NECESSARILY weaker than beams.  Trust me, I know

[S-99]

FS2 would have been more fun with longer range and faster moving blobs. There's countless times in missions where i'll see a cap ship dish out death dealing blobs non stop (and it looks ****ing cool) to something like a freighter, corvette, or cruiser that was just a couple of meters out of range of the blobs. Also i find that the blobs move a little too slowly. I wish they moved a little bit faster. Is it just me or do the blobs and projectiles in fs1 move faster than those in fs2? I always remembered the laser battles in fs1 to be more cool to watch as it was sort of star wars like.

It was cool in fs1. You just sit back and watch an enemy fighter fly close to good guys, and out of nowhere there's lots of projectiles on screen zipping around and the enemy got swatted very fast.

I still think beams have their place though. Unlike bombs, beams can't be intercepted, and the idea of the anti-fighter beam was notoriously effective. Beams are also instantaneous long range hits on big ships (unless it's terslashers).

[Narvi]

FS2 would have been more fun with longer range and faster moving blobs. There's countless times in missions where i'll see a cap ship dish out death dealing blobs non stop (and it looks ****ing cool) to something like a freighter, corvette, or cruiser that was just a couple of meters out of range of the blobs. Also i find that the blobs move a little too slowly. I wish they moved a little bit faster. Is it just me or do the blobs and projectiles in fs1 move faster than those in fs2? I always remembered the laser battles in fs1 to be more cool to watch as it was sort of star wars like.

It was cool in fs1. You just sit back and watch an enemy fighter fly close to good guys, and out of nowhere there's lots of projectiles on screen zipping around and the enemy got swatted very fast.

I still think beams have their place though. Unlike bombs, beams can't be intercepted, and the idea of the anti-fighter beam was notoriously effective. Beams are also instantaneous long range hits on big ships (unless it's terslashers).

The blobs don't move slower. You're just moving faster.

[nuone]

As for me, an implementation of "Halo Universe" MAC cannons would be fascinating. They would provide true planetary defense and a heck of a target to take down, considering its mass could house a plethora of defensive batteries.

[stuart133]

IMO seeing as how the defense on fighters against anything that is meant for a cap ship is ridiculously high except beams, beams would be my choice.

[The E]

Necro much?

[Stormkeeper]

... What do MAC cannons have to do with beams, anyway?

[Getter Robo G]

..... If you followed it they were talking about the viability things other than beams, types of pojectiles and whatnot.

Just let it die please.

It's been slow for months and many older threads are getting bumped it seems lately.

Though I will abmit we need more variety like whole classes in stead of just one weapon per.

That's one of my modding ideas for if I ever win the lottery. Like the noob shipbuilder program.

[deathfun]

I realize that many of these posts are in 08', but I think the best way to take out a Sathanas is this:

Dig a hole a kilometer deep, plant several Helios at the bottom, shoot off and detonate all within seven days
Bruce Willis needs to be on it while it blows

[headdie]

I realize that many of these posts are in 08', but I think the best way to take out a Sathanas is this:

Dig a hole a kilometer deep, plant several Helios at the bottom, shoot off and detonate all within seven days
Bruce Willis needs to be on it while it blows

oh yer your remote detonation has to fail