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Offline ssmit132

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Mission Problems with messaging.
I get this problem with the first mission in Deus Ex Machina (attached) and the second last mission in Derelict (The one where you destroy the Cthon). I get no messages! There is just an eternal messaging bracket around one ship (In Deus Ex Machina, the shipping point). When I try to open them in FRED2_Open (AFAIK, I originally had this problem a long time ago) it complains that the messages cannot be found, even though they're there in the file, (Derelict example attached) and opening the event editor causes a crash. I'm using FS_Open 3.6.9.

(I've posted this problem before, but no one replied.)

Very annoying as I want to play Deus Ex Machina again! :hopping: :mad:

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Offline Snail

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Re: Mission Problems with messaging.
Try some other builds.

 

Offline Jeff Vader

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Re: Mission Problems with messaging.
(I've posted this problem before, but no one replied.)
I was gonna skip posting again, since I have roughly no idea of what's going on. But as an universal guess: you've broken something.
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

15:41 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
15:47 < EvilBagel> butt
15:51 < Achillion> yes
15:53 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client]

18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

11:46 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
11:50 < achtung> Surely you've heard of DVDA
11:50 < achtung> Double Vaginal Double ANal
11:51 < Kobrar> ...
11:51 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has left #hard-light []

 

Offline nubbles526

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Re: Mission Problems with messaging.
If it were me, I would try the following:
1. Run the debug build.
2. Try other campaigns.
3. Try other builds.

Mean while, I am going to check DEM myself.


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Re: Mission Problems with messaging.
Could it be a currupted pilot file?

I hate that glitch  :mad:
Fun while it lasted.

Then bitter.

 

Offline nubbles526

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Re: Mission Problems with messaging.
Could it be a currupted pilot file?

I hate that glitch  :mad:


Nope, can't be pilot file problem. He mentioned that the messages don't appear in FRED either.

What build you using?


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Offline Jeff Vader

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Re: Mission Problems with messaging.
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

15:41 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
15:47 < EvilBagel> butt
15:51 < Achillion> yes
15:53 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client]

18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

11:46 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
11:50 < achtung> Surely you've heard of DVDA
11:50 < achtung> Double Vaginal Double ANal
11:51 < Kobrar> ...
11:51 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has left #hard-light []

 
Re: Mission Problems with messaging.
Maybe me means the .EXEs?
Fun while it lasted.

Then bitter.

 

Offline Jeff Vader

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Re: Mission Problems with messaging.
 :wtf: They're both .exes. And yes, I think he refers to the game engine instead of FRED. And isn't that what we were talking about? Or did I once again misunderstand something crucial?
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

15:41 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
15:47 < EvilBagel> butt
15:51 < Achillion> yes
15:53 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client]

18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

11:46 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
11:50 < achtung> Surely you've heard of DVDA
11:50 < achtung> Double Vaginal Double ANal
11:51 < Kobrar> ...
11:51 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has left #hard-light []

 
Re: Mission Problems with messaging.
Nah. It was probably me.
Fun while it lasted.

Then bitter.

 

Offline nubbles526

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Re: Mission Problems with messaging.
So let's sum up what we have got so far:
- Messages don't apear in either FRED or In-game (DEM and Derelict)
- FRED says that it can't find any messages.

So, then my conclusion:
- Could you extract that mission file and upload it to HLP? We will take a look at it.
- I tested DEM and Derelict with all builds from 3.6.9-3.6.10 (Including the unofficial builds). I could not find any problems relating to this problem.

Temporary Solution:
- Download DEM and Derelict one more time. Replace the newly downloaded VP with the old ones, and try again. Never heard of a corrupt mission file.


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Offline ssmit132

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Re: Mission Problems with messaging.
Try some other builds.

I'll think I'll try this. I'm sure it's not the mission files, and I recently downloaded DEM again, so it's probably the build. I've attached the mission, though.

If it were me, I would try the following:
1. Run the debug build.
2. Try other campaigns.
3. Try other builds.

Mean while, I am going to check DEM myself.

It's usually only a few missions, I've played a lot of different campaigns lately.

:wtf: They're both .exes. And yes, I think he refers to the game engine instead of FRED. And isn't that what we were talking about? Or did I once again misunderstand something crucial?

Just that it's both In-game and in FRED.

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Offline nubbles526

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Re: Mission Problems with messaging.
Checked the attachd DEM mission file. I confirm that the mission file is ok. Nothing wrong with it.


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Re: Mission Problems with messaging.
I decided to try a different build, but I'm a bit overwhelmed by the 'Recent Builds' list, and this thread is a bit vague (Trunk build? Do I just get the latest one or what?). Which build do you suggest?

 

Offline nubbles526

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Re: Mission Problems with messaging.
I currently use this one (3.6.10):
http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,52542.0.html

And if you plan to use that, download launcher 5.5d here:
http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,52691.0.html


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Offline ssmit132

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Re: Mission Problems with messaging.
I tried that build, but still the same problem. I fired up fred2_open_3_6_9_debug.exe with no mods (well, almost none) to see whether it was those that caused the problem, and when I tried to open the file I attached earlier, I got this error:

Code: [Select]
Assert: Num_messages < MAX_MISSION_MESSAGES
File: J:\src\cvs\fs2_open_3_6_9.final\code\Mission\MissionMessage.cpp
Line: 924
[This filename points to the location of a file on the computer that built this executable]

Call stack:
------------------------------------------------------------------
    fred2_open_3_6_9_debug.exe 004f45d3()
    fred2_open_3_6_9_debug.exe 004f56ea()
    fred2_open_3_6_9_debug.exe 004f65a8()
    fred2_open_3_6_9_debug.exe 00433424()
    fred2_open_3_6_9_debug.exe 00432908()
    fred2_open_3_6_9_debug.exe 009d6e16()
    fred2_open_3_6_9_debug.exe 009dd0b5()
    fred2_open_3_6_9_debug.exe 009e9095()
    fred2_open_3_6_9_debug.exe 009f53b9()
    fred2_open_3_6_9_debug.exe 009e8df2()
    fred2_open_3_6_9_debug.exe 009bf504()
    fred2_open_3_6_9_debug.exe 009bfc31()
    fred2_open_3_6_9_debug.exe 00a00f57()
    fred2_open_3_6_9_debug.exe 009baf5b()
    fred2_open_3_6_9_debug.exe 009ffc9a()
------------------------------------------------------------------

Don't know why it should be complaining, what could I have done to cause this?

 

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Re: Mission Problems with messaging.
\FreeSpace2\data\fs2_open.log <<== post that.  that's what debug is all about.

 

Offline nubbles526

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Re: Mission Problems with messaging.
Quote
Num_messages < MAX_MISSION_MESSAGES

Well well well....look what we have got here. Weird....very weird....

Well, this means that there are too many messages inside the mission. But strange, that never happened to me.


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Offline ssmit132

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Re: Mission Problems with messaging.
Quote
Num_messages < MAX_MISSION_MESSAGES

Well well well....look what we have got here. Weird....very weird....

Well, this means that there are too many messages inside the mission. But strange, that never happened to me.

It confuses me, too, as I was using the 3.6.9 build suggested on the Wiki. (This one)

\FreeSpace2\data\fs2_open.log <<== post that.  that's what debug is all about.

I tried to run it with the debugger but it crashed when I clicked the button on the pilot select screen.

 

Offline Jeff Vader

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Re: Mission Problems with messaging.
\FreeSpace2\data\fs2_open.log <<== post that.  that's what debug is all about.

I tried to run it with the debugger but it crashed when I clicked the button on the pilot select screen.
That was th first step. The other was to post your fs2_open.log.
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

15:41 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
15:47 < EvilBagel> butt
15:51 < Achillion> yes
15:53 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client]

18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

11:46 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
11:50 < achtung> Surely you've heard of DVDA
11:50 < achtung> Double Vaginal Double ANal
11:51 < Kobrar> ...
11:51 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has left #hard-light []