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Offline Snail

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When I use the Myrmidon, I employ an all-Subach, all-Tempest configuration. That's why I can rack up quite a number of kills while in the 53rd.
Total Dumbfire Ownage?

To be honest, I actually had never even used Tempests until after being advised to do so by the PI walkthrough. It's kinda funny. I thought Furys/Tempests were useless, but they really aren't.

 

Offline nvsblmnc

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Agreed.  If you're close, or a good enough shot, they can lay down an offensive amount of firepower.  And they rearm very quickly, too.
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When I use the Myrmidon, I employ an all-Subach, all-Tempest configuration. That's why I can rack up quite a number of kills while in the 53rd.
Total Dumbfire Ownage?

To be honest, I actually had never even used Tempests until after being advised to do so by the PI walkthrough. It's kinda funny. I thought Furys/Tempests were useless, but they really aren't.

Dumbfire pwnage FTW

 

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I saw Rake's Flail SCP video. That inspired me to try using the Total Dumbfire Ownage loadout. I've using the same loadout on every Myrmidon I can fly ever since.
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Offline Snail

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Thing is, it's not that great on the Myrm cause it's got some minuscule missile capacity.

 

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However, 320 Tempests set to dual-fire mode can last about ten minutes. And the reloading time is extremely fast.
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Offline Snail

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Hmm... Then I must have an extraordinarily bad aim or something, cause they last me about half a minute (whoosh whoosh whoosh).

 
* -Joshua- thinks the Prometheus R suffers from the same problem as the Artemis D.H.. It was supposed to be more powerfull, but no-one at playtesting noticed.

 

Offline Stormkeeper

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Nope. The Prom R is supposed to be weaker, due to the lack of argo, which was a primary component in its power-generation module.
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Nope. The Prom R is supposed to be weaker, due to the lack of argo, which was a primary component in its power-generation module.

Ehrm... I mean: More powerfull than it is now (not it is overpowered by a Subach). Not in the way of: Weaker then the S.

 

Offline Stormkeeper

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Ah. That. Then yea, I guess so.
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Offline bfobar

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Hmm... Then I must have an extraordinarily bad aim or something, cause they last me about half a minute (whoosh whoosh whoosh).

Early game I think they work best fired at very close range after a few subach volleys hit the rear shields. This technique generally ensures that the tempests are going right into the hull of the fighter you're shooting.

 

Offline CP5670

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I use Tempests in almost every mission. They should be treated like a short range primary weapon, comparable to a quad Kayser, and you can rack up kills very quickly with them in a large swarm of enemies.

One issue with the Tempest is that the missile hardpoint locations on a fighter can make a big difference on how effective they are, since many fighters have hardpoints that are somewhat far apart and will result in one of the two Tempests (from dual fire mode) frequently missing small targets at close range. On the Myrmidon for example, the third bank is better than the other two.

 

Offline Stormkeeper

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I view Tempests as melee weapons for FS2, short ranged, but oh so deadly.
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Offline Kie99

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I like taking a myrmadon with a subach on the 4 gun mount where it does quite a big of rapid fire damage, and I'll put a prom R  on the two gun mount and only use it for sniping bombs and turrets at max range. The subach energy drain allows me to up the power to shields and engines, making for a very powerful air superiority fighter. With this configuration, I'll usually load out with tempest dumbfires for extra shreddage at close range. I replace the prom R with any other long range gun I can take if its available. It really does suck.

I'm pretty sure the Subach is superior to the Prom R in every respect, including range.
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Offline Stormkeeper

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Same weapon range, and its faster cycle time makes up for its lower damage.
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Offline Mars

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It does have a slightly shorter range... but it's only like 100m - 300m difference.

 

Offline Retsof

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Range dosen't really matter anyway unless you're shooting at somehing big.  Otherwise beyond a few hundred meters it takes on the "spray and prey" approach.
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Range dosen't really matter anyway unless you're shooting at somehing big.  Otherwise beyond a few hundred meters it takes on the "spray and prey" approach.

spray and pray

 

Offline colecampbell666

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On medium, the Subach is a good supplement to a stronger weapon, such as a Prometheus S on a Tauret. On it's own, it barely does anything in dual gun banks, quad banks are awesome though.
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