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Offline Kosh

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Longevity treatments possible?
http://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2008/08/11/2331197.htm?site=science


I might actually be able to live forever after all......
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Offline Mars

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Re: Longevity treatments possible?
I don't know if I'd want to, really

 

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I imagine that given enough time, everything eventually becomes boring. Living longer? Sure, count me in, there's more stuff to do than can fit into the 50-60ish years I'm likely to have left if I don't screw up and get myself killed early. Forever though? Nah.
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Re: Longevity treatments possible?
I imagine that given enough time, everything eventually becomes boring. Living longer? Sure, count me in, there's more stuff to do than can fit into the 50-60ish years I'm likely to have left if I don't screw up and get myself killed early. Forever though? Nah.
Well, I seriously doubt it's forever. It's stopping aging, not immortality... You're bound to get into a car accident or super-AIDS or whatever somewhere down the line.

 

Offline Flipside

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I think it's more a question of health than immortality, whilst I still believe that life can probably go on for 3-4 times the current average age of a human, I'm still not convinced that ageing can be eliminated entirely, and, to be honest, nor do I think it should be, there's a reason old people die and new generations are born, and, quite frankly, this planet is crowded enough as it is.

 

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I don't want to live forever. Imagine having to see your family and your closest friends die while you live.

And besides, if everyone lived forever, there won't be enough free space on Earth to accommodate all.
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I disagree completely: If you have the power to stop the ones you love from dying, then you should use it, even if that means falling to the Dark Side.

 

Offline NGTM-1R

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You'd see a lot of tragedy if you lived forever, sure. But you'd also have literally forever to get over it.

However stopping aging in the end probably means screwing around with programmed cell death, and this goes to Bad Places. Cancer of the whole entire body, anyone?
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oh look another fake solution to anti aging.
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Offline Snail

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This shouldn't be for a person or a small group of important people to decide. If someone wants to live forever, you should let them. It's not fair for them not letting them do what they want if it's something this important. If he wants to screw up his life by living forever, let him. When he gets bored, he can commit suicide. No harm done.

 

Offline Kosh

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I'm still not convinced that ageing can be eliminated entirely, and, to be honest, nor do I think it should be, there's a reason old people die and new generations are born, and, quite frankly, this planet is crowded enough as it is.

Well this was a good first step. I think the key to living forever is to live long enough for them to push back the clock by a few hundred years, then repeat. Frankly, I don't want to die. If you want to that is your choice.

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It's stopping aging, not immortality...

Next best thing. At least it gives you time to work on all the other stuff.
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Re: Longevity treatments possible?
Pft.
The human lifetime is ling enough as it is. We don't need no more.

If human lifetime is ever extended so much, then it's the beginning of the apocalypse. we do enough damage as it is - if we live even longer...youch. Talk about population problems too... pensions. ...retirement homes.
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Offline Snail

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Pft.
The human lifetime is ling enough as it is. We don't need no more.

If human lifetime is ever extended so much, then it's the beginning of the apocalypse. we do enough damage as it is - if we live even longer...youch. Talk about population problems too... pensions. ...retirement homes.
That's not for you to decide. To be honest, when people say stuff like this it makes me want to strangle them with their own Ethernet cable (or, if they're using wireless internet, just stab them).

Just because you think that the human life span is long enough doesn't mean that other people don't want to live. Only when you're an old fart, living in an old-folks home, lonely and wishing you had done something better with your life, can you say that.

I've seen death, it's no fun, mate.

 

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That's not for you to decide. To be honest, when people say stuff like this it makes me want to strangle them with their own Ethernet cable (or, if they're using wireless internet, just stab them).

Just because you think that the human life span is long enough doesn't mean that other people don't want to live. Only when you're an old fart, living in an old-folks home, lonely and wishing you had done something better with your life, can you say that.

I've seen death, it's no fun, mate.

So have I, only that I was too young to recognise him/her/it/whatever.
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Offline Mars

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You're not the only one, and yes, death is a horrible thing.

However, I've also seen kids, and if we have old people who aren't going to die, and kids, who are never going to die, then we're all going to die. Not of old age either.

 

Offline Snail

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You're not the only one, and yes, death is a horrible thing.

However, I've also seen kids, and if we have old people who aren't going to die, and kids, who are never going to die, then we're all going to die. Not of old age either.
Cull them.

(a bit contradictory to my death ain't fun comment, but what the hell)

 

Offline Kosh

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If he wants to screw up his life by living forever, let him. When he gets bored, he can commit suicide. No harm done.

Actually I think dying would screw up your life more than anything else. :P


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I've seen death, it's no fun, mate.

Indeed, I'm 23 and I only have one of my grandparents left. My mom is almost 60, and my dad is almost 65, I'll probably outlive them by a pretty wide margin in anycase.
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Offline Daeron

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Re: Longevity treatments possible?

It only says it prevends risks of certain diseases by cleaning out harmful protines. This is not much different from being able to clean the lungs from years of smoking. Hey, I'd be glad if they could, but I wouldn't call it the secret to eternal life.

Meh.. IIRC Cells have a fixed number of divisions due to some sort of marker. Ahh.. here it is from wiki:

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Multicellular organisms replace worn-out cells through cell division. In some animals, however, cell division eventually halts. In humans this occurs on average, after 52 divisions, known as the Hayflick limit. The cell is then referred to as senescent. Senescent cells deteriorate and die, causing the body to age.[citation needed] Cells stop dividing because the telomeres, protective bits of DNA on the end of a chromosome, become shorter with each division and eventually can no longer protect the chromosome.[citation needed] Cancer cells, on the other hand, are immortal. An enzyme called telomerase, present in large quantites in cancerous cells, rebuilds the telomeres, allowing division to continue indefinitely.

This is basically our genetically build in mortality. Let'm fix that and I'll be impressed.  :D
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Re: Longevity treatments possible?
When we start ****ing up such fundamental processes like dying, innovation stops and perversion starts.
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When we start ****ing up such fundamental processes like dying, innovation stops and perversion starts.
Hello? Nature MEANT for us to die, we are NOT supposed to live forever. Where's the respect for nature, people?

Nature meant for us to wander in the plains hunting and scavaging for food, not using computers and posting replies on forums... Go out there and do your part then.  :rolleyes:
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