Author Topic: United Earth VS GTVA  (Read 76420 times)

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Offline Aardwolf

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wut.

I cannot explain, because naming the subject matter would be descriptive of the subject.

 

Offline nuone

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For all of you who defend the GTVA's actions as necessary, I quote the following,


"So certain are you?,
mmmhhhhhhehahh ahah" - Yoda

 

Offline Colonol Dekker

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I'm with the UEF all the way. 



All my stuff is on Earth ;7
Campaigns I've added my distinctiveness to-
- Blue Planet: Battle Captains
-Battle of Neptune
-Between the Ashes 2
-Blue planet: Age of Aquarius
-FOTG?
-Inferno R1
-Ribos: The aftermath / -Retreat from Deneb
-Sol: A History
-TBP EACW teaser
-Earth Brakiri war
-TBP Fortune Hunters (I think?)
-TBP Relic
-Trancsend (Possibly?)
-Uncharted Territory
-Vassagos Dirge
-War Machine
(Others lost to the mists of time and no discernible audit trail)

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Offline Snail

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I'm with GTVA, just to be contrarian.

 

Offline Rodo

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I'm with the Vishnans then, I love hanging out with neutral-talking species.
el hombre vicio...

 

Offline Thadeus

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Guess that leaves me siding with the Shivans.

Go team!
*kills topic*

  

Offline NGTM-1R

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"So certain are you?,
mmmhhhhhhehahh ahah" - Yoda

I mock Yoda for viewing the FS universe as a binary set. That only works for his universe.
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Offline -Norbert-

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His black and white view doesn't work for his own universe either.

 

Offline NGTM-1R

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No, actually it does. That's what makes it Star Wars, and the world of Star Wars was carefully constructed to allow it to be so. One may more strongly believe in the Lawful rather than the Evil part of the Empire's Lawful Evil, but you must accept both on some level.

Attempts to force grey morality through Star Wars fail as stories about that universe almost without exception.
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Offline General Battuta

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Huh? Shatterpoint and Traitor were the two best Star Wars stories I've read since the Zahn trilogy.

 

Offline NGTM-1R

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That's your problem.
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Offline General Battuta

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You honestly didn't like them? I thought they'd be right up your alley.

 

Offline NGTM-1R

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No, not really. One can violate the conventions of a setting as easily as those of a genre. If I wanted glaring moral ambiguity, I wouldn't have picked up a Star Wars book.

This is not to say they were bad stories. They were however bad stories for their setting...but that's hardly anything new for Star Wars in the last four or five years.
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Offline -Norbert-

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No, actually it does. That's what makes it Star Wars, and the world of Star Wars was carefully constructed to allow it to be so. One may more strongly believe in the Lawful rather than the Evil part of the Empire's Lawful Evil, but you must accept both on some level.

Attempts to force grey morality through Star Wars fail as stories about that universe almost without exception.

Erm... you don't even have to look outside the original trilogy to see Yoda is wrong.
Yoda's point of view is that you are either on the light side or on the dark side. Once you have fallen, you can NEVER EVER come back.
And yet, look at Darth Vader....

Then there would be Lando Calrissian and Han Solo. Both of them apprenetly good people, and yet they both steal and betray. Now one can argue that they only do that to the bad guys, but does that make a crime just, if you do it to a criminal?

If we include the new trilogy, we can see Anikan killing women and children of the sandpeople, while still staying on the light side for quite some time, clearly hovering between the two exremes, something that would be impossible if it really was only pure black and while.
Then there would be Amidala pretty much kicking the old chancellor from office to save her world, risking to make the situation worse for the whole republic. This could be naivety and ignorance of the enormous impact of her actions, but for me it looks more like she puts the live of her people before the rest of the galaxy. Again something an unblemished, pure light sider shouldn't do.

 
Ok placing the light and dark side of the force commentary  aside.... i'd fly for UEF. There something about being on the under dogs side :pimp:
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Offline Dilmah G

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Mmm, just... That kind of society, it doesn't sit well with me (UEF). I wouldn't fight under it.

 

Offline -Norbert-

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Given the choice of just sitting still and being conquered by an enemy who attacks without any reason (from the point of view of a UEF citizen anyway) or warning without even trying to negotiate  or trying to protect my home, family and friends, I'd rather fight the invaders, no matter if my government are patifistic hippies or not.

 

Offline Dilmah G

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Well, when your backs are to the wall like that, I'm quite sure everyone would fight. But if we were given the choice, I'd pick GTVA.

 
well for a 'pacifist' society they have some wicked ships, shame that they don't have that much firepower compared to the orestes. And those blue beam weapons are LETHAL.....
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Offline -Norbert-

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As anyone who played AoA through can attest, the strength of the beams doesn't matter.
The problem is, that the Raynor has so many of them, which makes disarming them in time to save your caps hard (at least if you sit in a Pegasus and try to disarm the Orestes, to save the Karuna in the last mission....).
« Last Edit: December 02, 2009, 10:45:18 am by -Norbert- »