I should've called this Fallout 3 FANS / Positive discussion. I get that you don't like it for numerous reasons, but re-iteration in a text based forum is pointless as it's on the record now.
I was merely replying\discussing about Lt. Cannonfodder's points of view, with minimal to no bloodshed... If it doesn't live up with your expectations of my opinion of the game, I'm sorry, but perhaps you should've named the topic as "Fallout 3 praising" IMO.
Isn't a negative opinion worthy of discussion nowadays? In fact I can't conceive a discussion without diverging opinions
Also, I don't see where I'm re-iterating. I've started from a general premise and then engaged myself in a healthy discussion with Lt. Cannonfodder, in which we are replying case by case to our points...
I haven't played either of the NWN2 expansions yet, though I've heard MotB is a lot better than the original campaign. Gotta find the time to try it out sometime
That explains it, you'r really missing out by not playing it yet... in fact NWN2 almost seems like crap compared to MotB imo.
And finally no, I'm not calling Fallout 3 a masterpiece. Far too early for that. I am calling it a good game though
Yeah that's it... simply good is not what I expect from a game nowadays. :\
And notice I didn't even go with the "what a sequel should be" argument. I'm trying to stay clear of that one for sanity's sake
You seem to misread me on purpose. It is a RPG of course, with elements from other genres. The blend works for me just fine.
I did, I just couldnt hold myself. Apologies though.
Seriously now, I have no problem whatsoever with the blend either. Like I said in a previous post, its the blandness and degradation of the setting that I have gripes with.
For instance, from what I've seen, Deus Ex was a much better game than this... and its what? 7 years old?
Vampires: Bloodlines was also, despite its inumerable bugs and horrid (in RPG terms) final chapter an excelent FPS\RPG... write me, or even show me via footage an example of comparable dialogue (both NPC's and character lines) in terms of quality and soul in Fallout 3... no in fact give me 10... just one isn't enough in a game that big.
Of course you have to try the game to judge it. The positive comments and reviews encouraged me to buy FO3 and I haven't regretted it.
Well, if we were discussing movies I'd agree with you. Staying clear of reviews (because well I don't consider most reviews the least professional in terms of journalism), and "online Joe's" opinions, Trailers don't say anything about movies. You do have to see the movie for yourself to judge.
I don't agree whan it comes to games for the simple fact that gameplay footage tells you all you need to know about a game: gameplay, visuals, writing\dialogue quality, voice acting quality, setting and atmosphere. Only thing you don't get on gameplay footage is you pressing the buttons, but really that's the least of my worries when it comes to an RPG.
From all the footage I've seen of Fallout 3, case by case:
- Gameplay: standard FPS\RPG hybrid, with the exception of VATS... VATS slo-mo sequences look boring as hell 90% of the time.
I hate it that the game gives you so many hints (both subtle and flat out slapped in your face) about the consequences, what to do, etc.
- Visuals: good, but outdated. Not really a problem for me to be honest. The animations however... ugh.
- Writing quality: cliché, boring, bland... few actual deep choices.
- Voice acting: mixed feelings: some NPC's sound like they came straight out of oblivion, others are good enough (not excellent), other's are downright awfull (I still have nightmares about Mr Burke's voice acting... in the worst sense)
- Setting and atmosphere: Well the setting is clearly very little Fallout: Orcs (I mean super mutants), Holy Knights (I mean BoS), etc. I'm really not one to complain about them being in the west coast, or that they have a visual evolution. However, when they start resembling medieval fantasy factions I must say we have a problem. Yes I know the BoS have the outcast faction which adheres to the original BoS code, but just the fact that the majority of West Coast's BoS folks turned over to Holy Knights is insulting to say the least. It simply shows that they wanted to have familiar names, but they didn't like the faction's themselves.
Also the fact that there's a S. Mutant breeding center that does exactly the same as FO1's one manages to break my suspension of disbelief.
Still on the setting there's some stuff that is indeed interesting (atleast the concepts of them) in the fallout setting, like Megaton, Rivet City, and others.
Visually, despite visual inconsistencies regarding the originals, the atmosphere isn't bad... However the horrid animations and poor writing completely ruin it for me.
So yeah, I believe gameplay videos are more than enough for me to judge a game
Ignorance at its best. How I hate such people.
The game is REALLY awesome! I'm pretty much addicted to it. Personally I think it's even better than the originals.
Yes because the originals didn't have so good graphics, and only a few NPC's had voice. Also their lines were much longer so they forced you to read
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Ignorance at its best. How I hate such people.