[AlphaOne]

So you mean the Collie actualy had a designation already in place as a TVA Battleship.

However such a thing implies that it is somewhat standard to both terran's and vasudans. Namely a ship class that is built for both races with no differences whatsoever?

Also such a thing would imply that the Collie was intended for mass production at some point or another.

[eliex]

Also such a thing would imply that the Collie was intended for mass production at some point or another.

That won't happen due to the massive costs and time required just to build one. One would wonder how the 80 Sathanai got constructed in a short time span (if the construction exceed more than 50 years radically newer technology would have been developed.)

[Narvi]

Also such a thing would imply that the Collie was intended for mass production at some point or another.

That won't happen due to the massive costs and time required just to build one. One would wonder how the 80 Sathanai got constructed in a short time span (if the construction exceed more than 50 years radically newer technology would have been developed.)

Not necessarily. It probably wouldn't take twenty years to build the next one. Remember that the Colossus was a secret project, and construction began around the time period of reconstruction, so it probably wasn't allocated too many resources. Not to mention that Sol, the primary human industrial hub has been cut off, so a lot of resources were needed just to rebuild the infrastructure at the time.

The first Colossus was the prototype. The next model will come out faster.

As to the 80 Sathanas class juggernaughts; the Shivans have like, a lot of systems. And have been around for thousands of years.

[Jeff Vader]

One would wonder how the 80 Sathanai got constructed in a short time span (if the construction exceed more than 50 years radically newer technology would have been developed.)

Nothing implies directly that the Sathanases were constructed between the events of FS1 and FS2. It is completely possible that the Shivans had their Sathanas armada, as well as god-kowns-what other ships. They just didn't see any reason to use them during the Great War. Or the Sathanases had other tasks at the time (like blowing up other stars perhaps?).

[AlphaOne]

Agreed the first one takes ages to build that is a rule you can not get passed. New tech had to be developed and tested then retested before final assembly . Then the whole thing had to be tested as a whole different modification and corrections made to it before it was completed.



Also the GTVA had to start from almost 0 infrastructure .  Just imagine they had to build the shipyards the research and development infrastructure gather enough res. while at the same time divert a huge amount of rest to rebuilding the fleets. And the economical infrastructure.

Sure the GTVA lost quite a hand full of ships this time and an entire sistem but all in all they are a LOT better off then they were at the end of the last war when they had almost nothing to go on.

At least this time they have the infrastructure in place the shipyards the res gathering in place the R&D etc. Also this time around they do not have to develop new tech for everything.

Even if they wanted modifications to be done to the Collie they know how and where to do it .

So should they start building another one half the time would be required if not less. That is usually how it goes. By the time they get to the third one and so on they could build them, should they allocate enough res. ,in as little as 2 to 3 years per ship.


Im using modern day equivalents for this . I mean im looking at how different production of various military assets went after the first one was developed tried and tested.


To give you an example the development of a APC over here a new one i mean took about 2 -3 years of testing designing etc. This is how much it took for the first one to be developed and built and a assembly line put in place.

Now at just 20% work capacity they can ship out about 50 per month.

[castor]

Though, after seeing the Saths, I doubt they'd ever want to build something like Collie again

[Ziame]

And after three hundred years, some scientist will discover this forum and say "Holy crap! They thought we'd be stupid enough to build a ship that can be ripped in half by a stray asteroid!" Then he will stand on the grave of HLP (HLP LIVE FOREVUH!) and smile "Thiz iz real life!" And then, Shivanz attack.

[Dilmah G]

And after three hundred years, some scientist will discover this forum and say "Holy crap! They thought we'd be stupid enough to build a ship that can be ripped in half by a stray asteroid!" Then he will stand on the grave of HLP (HLP LIVE FOREVUH!) and smile "Thiz iz real life!" And then, Shivanz attack.

 

[Grizzly]

And after three hundred years, some scientist will discover this forum and say "Holy crap! They thought we'd be stupid enough to build a ship that can be ripped in half by a stray asteroid!" Then he will stand on the grave of HLP (HLP LIVE FOREVUH!) and smile "Thiz iz real life!" And then, Shivanz attack.

 

 

[Commander Zane]

Yeah I'm lost on that one too.

[Excalibur]

.pihs elttaB

Although I think that it should just be "GTVA Colossus", since it is a one and only prototype test model - that actually does the job it was designed and built for.

Also, GTJ or GTCJ sounds wierd.

.rubilaxcE

[Commander Zane]

Well like others have said, the fact that it's called a Battle Ship implies that it would be further produced, the GTVA Colossus would be the name given to the maiden ship of its class before it was produced with a GTBB title or something.

The first of the Victory Heavy Destroyers was named the IAS Victory to state a possibly similar note.

[Narvi]

Well like others have said, the fact that it's called a Battle Ship implies that it would be further produced, the GTVA Colossus would be the name given to the maiden ship of its class before it was produced with a GTBB title or something.

The first of the Victory Heavy Destroyers was named the IAS Victory to state a possibly similar note.

GTBB...? Galactic Terran Battle Barge? Not quite yet, I think.

It's a joint venture, don't forget. The symbol of the unity of the GTVA.

So, it would be either GTVABS or (more likely) GTVBS. Possibly GTVBs.

"The Colossus-class GTVBs Vindicator is leading the thrust into the warm depths of the inner system."

[Jeff Vader]

GTBB...? Galactic Terran Battle Barge? Not quite yet, I think.

Battleship, US Navy hull classification symbol

[azile0]

The Colossus was THE COLOSSUS of the GTVA. It meets both Juggernaut and Superdestroyer classes, because it's got the size of a juggernaut, and the firepower of a Superdestoyer. I'm honestly disappointed how weak the Colly is, really. If it didn't have some badass fighter cover, it would have been obliterated by the Sath's beams in seconds, like in that.. one mission where the Sath kills the Colly because it didn't have fighter cover. I just wish that I could fly fast enough over the the Sath and kill it's beams before it killed the Colly. Take THAT, canon storyline!

[Narvi]

GTBB...? Galactic Terran Battle Barge? Not quite yet, I think.

Battleship, US Navy hull classification symbol

What.

How does that work?

[Jeff Vader]

What.

How does that work?

The same way Frigate (Ff) works.

Magic.

[Grizzly]

The Colossus was THE COLOSSUS of the GTVA. It meets both Juggernaut and Superdestroyer classes, because it's got the size of a juggernaut, and the firepower of a Superdestoyer. I'm honestly disappointed how weak the Colly is, really. If it didn't have some badass fighter cover, it would have been obliterated by the Sath's beams in seconds, like in that.. one mission where the Sath kills the Colly because it didn't have fighter cover. I just wish that I could fly fast enough over the the Sath and kill it's beams before it killed the Colly. Take THAT, canon storyline!

The Collusses was killed that easy because of an oversight / bug. The disabled engines thingy. Along that, that mission was just fairly badly coded.

With that said, where is Their Finest Hour: Reborn?

[nostro_pl]

Propably also with fighter cover the Colossus doesn't have a chance against the Sathanas in Finest Hour.
 Joshua, captain of the Colossus said, that he wants to give Bastion a time to reach the jump node. It's possible, that even with all engines on-line, Colo would not escape.

[Rodo]

well what can you do, the sath is obviously unstopable, unless you play it right, and well you always need an "invincible" foe to keep the player at the edge of the chair... is that right? m