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The GTVA Colossus is never explicitly given a ship type in game, so what do you think it is closest to?

Juggernaut
59 (62.8%)
Superdestroyer
17 (18.1%)
Super Capital Ship
13 (13.8%)
Destroyer
0 (0%)
Warship
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Offline AlphaOne

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Re: What Ship Type is the GTVA Colossus?
And in real life we would have lazors to snipe targets a few hundred km away :)))
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Offline Commander Zane

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Re: What Ship Type is the GTVA Colossus?
ffs...
It's speculation of what would happen on FreeSpace's part had the events taken place in real-time.
Seriously, would anyone actually sortie a single ship with two bomber wings to take down another ship as large and magnitudes of power stronger than your carrier vessel?

 

Offline AlphaOne

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IF i was desperate enough i would. I mean if you wanna take it close to real time then ffs lets talk combat deployment of the GTVA fleet's combat engagements and such...!

I mean heres one example ! You have the flagship of the 5'th fleet the Aquitane and one of the most proeminent admirals and posibly influencial ones in all the GTVA on board as its commander . The Aquitane could very well be considered some sort of flag ship for the GTVA . And yet the Aquitane is left unguarded almost all of the time. At best you have one fraking wing of fighters providing CAP in the fraking middle of the nebula.


I mean come on get real.

I'd freaking sortie at least 6 wing's of fighter's,bombers and interceptors. 2 bombers wings 1 fighter wing and 3 interceptor wings. That is an actual adequate CAP in the middle of the freaking war with a species that is superior in both numbers and weapons. And since you cant freaking see anithin' in the god damn nebula id say keeping at least 1 or 2 cruisers or a corvette close by would be a really good idea.

Also let's not forget the all mighty Collie with its sh** for brain weapons configuration . Powerfull indeed but ever so weak at the same time.

You have THE flagship of the entire GTVA armed forces and a simbol of GTVA pride and so on ...and yet the bloody thing is left unguarded all the time. I dont care how much firepower it has i will never let that ship go anywhere without an Orion and a Hecate or Hattie less then a 1 short jump away.

Oh and dont even get me started on the absolute stupidity of fracking blocading nodes by placing your ships in front of the enemy cannons cuz that just made my head explode .  I mean what kind of an absolute idiot do you have to be to place yourself in the lion's mouth like that .


Fraking move to the side you fraking idiots for the love of god.

Oh yeah not to mention the favorite of us all "uu lets send 1 wing of bombers to take out the enemy fleet cuz..err they can do it ..hoorayyyy....." "so what about the rest of the ships "

"aaa well why dont we try to play tag with the enemy beam canons that sounds like fun right ....??!!"

Phew vented off some steam here but i think ppl should understand that while it is appealing to try and debate all these things in real time and such one has to disregard a host of other game elements that are there top be taken a laws or something.
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Offline Commander Zane

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Re: What Ship Type is the GTVA Colossus?
So the game itself is concentrated on the player's viewpoint of being a combat pilot for a given flagship, I can deal with that, piloting small things is fun, but it's too concentrated on the point that such a pilot can change the entire tide of battle in any situation. For the battles against the Sathanas, there'd probably be more large ships and even more small ships, it's not like we can do that with ground troops in reality "Okay, our objectives are to clear this city, this tank will provide assistance for Fireteam (Four men) Alpha, expect heavy resistance, good luck." and somehow win.

 

Offline AlphaOne

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well thats exactly mi point. I mean before ppl start stating and debating real time stuf they shoul concentrate on the fact that the game is made is such a way that the pilot in this case the player of Alpha 1 is MEANT  to win the war all by himself.

and he probably could too with a few cheats ;))
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Re: What Ship Type is the GTVA Colossus?
In that sense, FS2 sounds like Pokemon, Freelancer, Duke Nukem and Prey. ;)
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Offline Charismatic

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Re: What Ship Type is the GTVA Colossus?
The Collie was built to defeat a Lucifer. Lucifer was a superdestroyer, so shouldent the Collie be one as well?

Sathi's are Juggernauts but the Collie could not really take one on without the help of Alpha 1. So how can it be a Jugernaut?
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Offline Jeff Vader

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Re: What Ship Type is the GTVA Colossus?
The Collie was built to defeat a Lucifer. Lucifer was a superdestroyer, so shouldent the Collie be one as well?
Bombers weren't built to defeat other bombers.
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Offline Charismatic

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Re: What Ship Type is the GTVA Colossus?
Fighters are built to defeat other fighters as well as other ships. But this is cap ships were talking about. The Collie took out destroyers just fine. Had a hard time taking out a Sathi.
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Offline Snail

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Re: What Ship Type is the GTVA Colossus?
Ursae are designed to destroy destroyers... So does that mean they're destroyers too? :confused:

This train of thought has to be the worst argument set forward for any candidate so far.

 

Offline Charismatic

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Re: What Ship Type is the GTVA Colossus?
Screw off. I said fighters in general. Exceptions always apply. Like when lag bombing or tab loading.
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Re: What Ship Type is the GTVA Colossus?
I used to think Juggernaut, but then I saw the .ani that talks about the Colossus after you first encounter it.  It pretty clearly stated "TVA Battle Ship".  So therefore we can conclude that the class of the Colossus is battleship.
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Offline AlphaOne

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You're all wrong the collie is in fact a stealth fighter with beams ! The whole 6 km long thing is just its disguise ! Thats how it goes about unnoticed. The GTVA scientists and most brilliant minds decided that this top secret project was best hidden in a 6 km long thing.
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Offline Dilmah G

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Re: What Ship Type is the GTVA Colossus?
You're all wrong the collie is in fact a stealth fighter with beams ! The whole 6 km long thing is just its disguise ! Thats how it goes about unnoticed. The GTVA scientists and most brilliant minds decided that this top secret project was best hidden in a 6 km long thing.

I think I'll hand my rank slides in now thanks. Oh- and my Officers Commission and everything I have to do with the GTVA.

 

Offline Killer Whale

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Re: What Ship Type is the GTVA Colossus?
I think it's a supercapitol  :blah:

 

Offline Commander Zane

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Re: What Ship Type is the GTVA Colossus?
I think it's a supercapitol  :blah:
We've already pointed it out...it's a "Battle Ship." :rolleyes:

  

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Re: What Ship Type is the GTVA Colossus?
Article modified to reflect http://koti.mbnet.fi/reiler/FunkyFreeSpaceStuff/wtfnooblol.png and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrKMw6JHgFA.

http://www.hard-light.net/wiki/index.php?title=GTVA_Colossus&diff=20541&oldid=19924

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Re: What Ship Type is the GTVA Colossus?
Are you serious?

 

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Re: What Ship Type is the GTVA Colossus?
Please drop the 'of massive proportions'. That just sounds...unprofessional. 'Battle ship' would be a good enough designation.
We all know the Colossus was made by the (Galactic) Terran-Vasudan Alliance, and that it's big.
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Re: What Ship Type is the GTVA Colossus?
What about writing an article about this issue, and instead of giving a designation, there would be a link there?
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