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Again?

 

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A bit late on this one, I'm actually kinda shocked nobody made a topic about it before now.
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 Well there's not really anything new to say about it. The Israelis are twats for attacking Gaza and the Palestinians are twats for attacking Israel.

Neither side actually cares about their people enough to stop acting in that fashion so why should we?
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Neither side actually cares about their people enough to stop acting in that fashion so why should we?
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Someone in the region should just invade both and just be done with it. Both states have demonstrated inability of coexisting with each other. Solution? They both stop existing.
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Offline Daniel P

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These Guy's are fighting seance the beginning of History.

And I agree Ghostavo.

If they sign peace. They will attack later. And the cycle will continue.
 
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Someone in the region should just invade both and just be done with it. Both states have demonstrated inability of coexisting with each other. Solution? They both stop existing.

Barring total genocide of one side or the other, it'd simply produce more discontented refugees and a breeding ground for future conflict.

 

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To be honest they're not at the same level, at least in terms of casualties inflicted to the enemy's population.

Israel is killing much more than its counterpart...
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But Palestinians are still killing people.
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Offline Mars

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To be honest they're not at the same level, at least in terms of casualties inflicted to the enemy's population.

Israel is killing much more than its counterpart...


Such discussion is counterproductive. The fact is, more people are murdered in the US in a month than than have died in the current Isreali offensive. If this violence is to stop, both sides need to stop with the vengeance and the pride.

 

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But Palestinians are still killing people.

Yes, of course, but Israeli counterattacks tend to do much more damage(on purpose), and that sucks...

Such discussion is counterproductive. The fact is, more people are murdered in the US in a month than than have died in the current Isreali offensive. If this violence is to stop, both sides need to stop with the vengeance and the pride.

We do now it's not going to stop, at least not now. It'd make much more sense to prevent Israel from exaggerating with its attacks. Obviously, both sides should stop killing people...but it's much more doable for the UN or another important authority to stop or relent Israel's exaggerate counterattacks.
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Someone in the region should just invade both and just be done with it. Both states have demonstrated inability of coexisting with each other. Solution? They both stop existing.

 :rolleyes:

I'm not sure how many nations would be willing to line up and fight the IDF; most middle eastern countries have tried it at one time or another and failed.  Aside from the US, China, or Russia most nations would just get their ass kicked up between their ears and even the former probably couldn't do it without paying a stiff price in blood and treasure. 
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Someone in the region should just invade both and just be done with it. Both states have demonstrated inability of coexisting with each other. Solution? They both stop existing.

 :rolleyes:

I'm not sure how many nations would be willing to line up and fight the IDF; most middle eastern countries have tried it at one time or another and failed.  Aside from the US, China, or Russia most nations would just get their ass kicked up between their ears and even the former probably couldn't do it without paying a stiff price in blood and treasure. 

Well, there's a nice coalition of forces (although I must admit I don't know how many remain there) just east of Israel. Of course I know it would be nigh impossible to convince them to do so.
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You know, Israel is one of the best allies of the USA and...

Well, the rest is obvious. :P
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Well, to be fair, you can say all you want about Isreal, but the fact they still exist is a testiment to their military prowess and willingness to fight dirty

 

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I respect Israeli forces' successful attempts to defend their country in the past few decades but I obviously don't like the way things turned out to be...looks like the hunted became the hunters.
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Hamas knows exactly what they're doing. They launch rockets at Israel and Israel's not going to stand by and let anyone do that without some sort of response. But Israel isn't going to send soldiers, that's asking for too much trouble for them in any regard (people would cry "Invasion!"). So they use airstrikes, the single most easiest way to attack. Its also the worst way to attack in an urban setting. Collateral damage is pretty much guaranteed, and anyone who dies from it is instantly a martyr and ratchets up sympathy from the world. It's win-win for Hamas.

 

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It's disturbing but Axem's correct.  It's no secret how the IDF is going to respond to attacks, so when Hamas launches a rocket out of some schoolyard they know exactly what will happen in the end.  It's bad enough Israel is is killing innocents when it strikes back but the fact that Hamas is purposely sacrificing its own civilians is even more so.
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