[Snagger]

The problem with that is that, while travelling backwards might be possible, travelling forwards isn't. Galactica needed to send a Raptor back to the RTF to tell them where Earth is, meaning that that Raptor would need to go forward to rendezvous with the fleet, and then backwards to Galactica again. If they were able to do time travel that accurately, they would have done it before.

Quite.  If they could time travel, which doesn't fit with the show's feel anyway, then wouldn't they have done so to just before the attack on the Colonies, or better, to just before the Cylons were created?

[BlackDove]

If they could time travel, they would have just jumped to Earth when they were at Demolished Earth, backwards.

[The E]

And if they could do that, they also could go back to before the cylon attack on the colonies and "convince" Cavill to call it off. Introducing time travel into a fictional universe created without it in mind only makes it unstable.

[Herra Tohtori]

I agree. Time travel is a piss poor plothole filler, only marginally better than Goddidit. It also tends to make more problems than it solves (back and forth travel for one). Which is why I posted the revised theory which ignores the celestial discrepancies such has matching constellations to modern day Earth when observed from the nuked "Earth"...

Oh by the way, traveling to future is possible, going back in time isn't. At least according to most interpretations of general relativity.

When you think about it, we are traveling to the future all the time. Just introduce some time dilating factor on yourself and you can travel to future faster than others. Going to past though would seem to be impossible (not counting stuff like tachyons here).

[Locutus of Borg]

What if I dilate by negative 1?

Then reflect over the Y axis?

o.0

[On_Your_Six]

I never once had any reason to believe that the fleet did time travel on the way to "our" Earth.

Is this a result of people mistaking the 13th Colony Earth for our Earth, as I definitely recall Adama arbitrarily naming our Earth, Earth?  Bleh.

Either way, that was the one part of the show that irked me a little, which was how Kara just threw in the coordinates and they ended up in our system.  While also ignoring what the Harbinger of Death, and bringing them all to their end, as prophesied by the Hybrid Cylon.  Though, I suppose that could have been the Tarot meaning of Death and end.  As, the Colonials did turn their backs on their technology.

[Locutus of Borg]

They were destined to attack the colony

[The E]

I agree. Time travel is a piss poor plothole filler, only marginally better than Goddidit. It also tends to make more problems than it solves (back and forth travel for one). Which is why I posted the revised theory which ignores the celestial discrepancies such has matching constellations to modern day Earth when observed from the nuked "Earth"...

Oh by the way, traveling to future is possible, going back in time isn't. At least according to most interpretations of general relativity.

When you think about it, we are traveling to the future all the time. Just introduce some time dilating factor on yourself and you can travel to future faster than others. Going to past though would seem to be impossible (not counting stuff like tachyons here).

Okay, that's one way of doing it. However, can you guarantee that the future that you arrive in is the same future you departed from?

[Deckard]

Herra, should i remind you of that both Einstein's GR and SR Theories are almost a century old?.

By the way.. Tachyons "within" open strings look quite promising and interesting to me. Although today, these little faster than light frakkers are still labeled as hypothetical particles by the Scientist community .

Although Einstein's Field equations predict related efects as Frame-dragging, I'd point to String Theories ( yes, plural.. unfortunately many variants of the original.. ), Hawking's Quantum Fields and the amazing properties of BECs ( yep, Einstein here again.. all my respects to the master! ).

Talking about time travel to the future. The relativistic time frame for a faster traveller looks like some sort of "cryostasis" to me as well as some sort of fake time travel. You catch me at this one?. There's much to discover and much more to know and, being not this the better place to discuss on these matters, I foresee that travelling backwards is possible, teleporting is possible, cloning particles is possible, space jumps too... and the list goes on.

The only thing I'm afraid of is if we, being as hostile as we are, will deserve the required technologies to fullfill these challenges in the .. yes, the future

In other words, I prefer your first interpretation !

[General Battuta]

Talking about time travel to the future. The relativistic time frame for a faster traveller looks like some sort of "cryostasis" to me as well as some sort of fake time travel. You catch me at this one?. There's much to discover and much more to know and, being not this the better place to discuss on these matters, I foresee that travelling backwards is possible, teleporting is possible, cloning particles is possible, space jumps too... and the list goes on.

Cryostasis, my friend, involves freezing.

[Deckard]

Sorry, mate; that was metaphoric.

[Herra Tohtori]

Chronostasis would be (a bit) more accurate term, but if you want to be accurate, call it what it is... time dilation.

[TESLA]

Yeah but your going to need to re-modulate the deflector dish or fix the flux capacitor 

[Locutus of Borg]

But by then the Borg have assimilated you

 

[General Battuta]

Sorry, mate; that was metaphoric.

All good, all good.

I was kind of expecting Baltar's cult to lead mass suicide during the finale.

Whatever happened to "The Children of the One Reborn shall find their own world?"

[FraktuRe]

^The centurions maybe?

[Ace]

Sorry, mate; that was metaphoric.

All good, all good.

I was kind of expecting Baltar's cult to lead mass suicide during the finale.

Whatever happened to "The Children of the One Reborn shall find their own world?"

Yeah, the whole "The Children of the One Reborn Shall Found a New Nation" thing led me to expect that Kara and Lee were going to live happily ever after or something. Of course it could refer to the final five, or just about anything else really.

[Nightstorm]

 

Well, I've read what others have posted, and a week has gone by and I even rewatched it last night.  When Moore said "Frak the plot, it's about the characters!" he didn't exagerate one little bit.  Don't misunderstand this post, I'm a big fan of BSG and love the show.   I also know there's not much that can be done about it now but even as the show was in the last five minutes I kept waiting for SOMETHING to happen that would make sense.  There are so many problems with how that went down I'm not sure where to begin.  I guess I'll start with my biggest gripe and go from there:

In the last three hours of televised BSG they spent about a third of the time doing flashbacks to Caprica pre-war.  I have to ask...what was the point?  How did any of what they show releate to what was happening with the finale?  Baltar has a Dad that he didn't respect because he turned his back on his working class herritage and wanted to be an upper class Caprican.  We already knew that.  Bill Adama didn't retire and stayed in the fleet to command Galactica.  We knew that too, six years ago.  Laura joined up with Adar's presidential campaign to one day become the Sec of Education.  Um, yea six years ago on that one too.  Kara gets wasted and wants to frak the first thing with a heart beat and male genitles...I think we firmly established that early on as well.  So....we've wasted one third of the last three hours on non sensical information that doesn't further the story line and does little to fill in any of the unexplained questions.  Ok.  Moving on.  God/Gods/Greater all powerful being of nature/insert metaphysical reference here did it.  Fine.  Almost as bad of a plot tool as time travel or "it was all just a dream".  Ok.  Kara was never there?  Nah, had to be.  She just popped out of existence the same way she popped in with a brand new shiny 40 year old viper.  I mean come on.....that whole sequence from start to finish with the final five being major human characters was a left turn that ran into the ditch in my opinion.  Should never have happened that way.  The little girl that is the salvation of us all was taken by the evil Cavil.  Let's take the ship, get dozens of people killed, get the big G all busted up, and got get her gods dammit!  She's important!  So important in fact, that the most noteable thing she did was give Kara a set of musical notes that she figures out are jump coordinates to the new "Earth" so that little human/cylon girl can run through the field chasing butterflies.  Hmm...the survival of TWO species depends on her.  For what?  To find a rock to live on?  Been there done that, New Caprica.  Cavil doesn't get his way...he off's him self.  WTF?  Bill Adama decides because Laura isn't gonna make it, he's going to build a cabin in her memory and spend the rest of his days talking to her grave.  Oh, yea...what's he going to build it with?  Galen wants to go live up in the moutains by himself where it cold.  He doesn't even have a winter coat.  Lee want's to "Climb the moutains and cross the oceans and EXPLORE!"  He doesn't even have a rope.  We've got all of this tech but lets lower ourselves to the same level as the tribal folks we just found.  Lets just fly all of our ships into the sun because Lee wants to start over.  Sure, that makes sense....but not really.  Seriously?  That was the best they could do?  Add to that, they give the Centurians a base ship all to themselves and let them jump off to do whatever makes their little mechanical CPU's happy.  Hmm...lets leave them with tech superior to ours with nuclear weapons, raiders, jump drive and then we'll chuck it all and start using sticks and stones.  Now THERES a good idea if I ever saw one.  Ok, rant off.  How about this for a better idea:

They established that they were seeding the colonials all over the planet.  They have all of this advanced tech.  Why not have used that hour of wasted flashback sequences and established things like....the basis for most of our mythology.  The Pyramids in Egypt, South America, the City of Atlantis, (Battlestar Atlantia anyone?)  They could have done SO MUCH MORE that would have made sense without altering the out come.  I know this was rather jumbled, but hey...that's how the series left me.  All mixed up and saying What the Frak?

[Deckard]

Well, I do see those flashbacks as an smart way to introduce fans into the upcoming Caprica show..

[FraktuRe]

All I can say to you nightstorm, is cry some more.