Author Topic: Sick I tell you. Sick. (Read 69203 times)

Nuclear1 · **Reply #20 on:** March 22, 2009, 09:09:26 pm

Isn't Israel already doing just that with their blockade, and demolishing Palestinians homes to make settlements for Israelis? Or does the IDF actually need to go in every few years and kill a thousand innocent people just to "send a message"?

Or maybe Israel is a little bit at fault and you're not willing to admit it?

Bobboau · **Reply #21 on:** March 22, 2009, 11:08:07 pm

why don't we drop the sniper issue for a moment.

it sounds like the guys who went room to room house to house killing everyone in sight are gonna get shot, or at least the guys in charge.

so can we expect Hamas to publicly execute the guys who fired the rockets into those shopping malls ect soon?

iamzack · **Reply #22 on:** March 23, 2009, 05:58:30 am

Mmm...

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An ingenious example of speech and politics occurred recently in the United Nations Assembly which made the world community smile. A representative from Israel began: "Before beginning my talk I want to tell you something about Moses. When he struck the rock and it brought forth water, he thought, 'What a good opportunity to have a bath!' He removed his clothes, put them aside on the rock and entered the water. When he got out and wanted to dress, his clothes had vanished. A Palestinian had stolen them."

The Palestinian representative jumped up furiously and shouted, "What are you talking about? The Palestinians weren't there then."

The Israeli representative smiled and said, "And now that we have made that clear, I will begin my speech."

For clarification: I find the entire premise of Israel extremely silly. I think the jews should go live in the sahara.

Dilmah G · **Reply #23 on:** March 23, 2009, 06:09:15 am

Quote from: iamzack on March 23, 2009, 05:58:30 am

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An ingenious example of speech and politics occurred recently in the United Nations Assembly which made the world community smile. A representative from Israel began: "Before beginning my talk I want to tell you something about Moses. When he struck the rock and it brought forth water, he thought, 'What a good opportunity to have a bath!' He removed his clothes, put them aside on the rock and entered the water. When he got out and wanted to dress, his clothes had vanished. A Palestinian had stolen them."

The Palestinian representative jumped up furiously and shouted, "What are you talking about? The Palestinians weren't there then."

The Israeli representative smiled and said, "And now that we have made that clear, I will begin my speech."

Are you ****ing serious?

Given that he's a representative of Israel he makes them all sound like a heap of arrogant bastards. It's beyond me why he would've chosen such an example to begin with.

It's kind of funny though

iamzack · **Reply #24 on:** March 23, 2009, 06:13:57 am

Uh, no, I'm not serious. It's a retarded right-wing forward. myrightwingdad.blogspot.com

karajorma · **Reply #25 on:** March 23, 2009, 06:33:16 am

Give Israel back to the Spanish!

iamzack · **Reply #26 on:** March 23, 2009, 06:34:35 am

Give the Americas and Australia back to the natives.

karajorma · **Reply #27 on:** March 23, 2009, 06:44:56 am

Give the Europe back to the Neanderthals!

To be honest, after a generation or two have passed it starts getting stupid.

iamzack · **Reply #28 on:** March 23, 2009, 06:57:15 am

It's like killing somebody because his dead grandfather stole your dead grandfather's pig decades ago.

Why does anybody support Israel, anyway? Is it seriously just the whole holocaust thing?

Rick James · **Reply #29 on:** March 23, 2009, 07:34:06 am

Quote from: iamzack on March 23, 2009, 06:57:15 am

It's like killing somebody because his dead grandfather stole your dead grandfather's pig decades ago.

Why does anybody support Israel, anyway? Is it seriously just the whole holocaust thing?

In part, yes. People are afraid to criticize Israel because they fear their criticisms will be seen as anti-semitic, or worse, twisted to make them into supporters of the holocaust. It's one of the big reasons why no major media outlet has ever openly criticized Israel.

EDIT: Or rather, why no American outlet has criticized Israel. Israel and America are pretty buddy-buddy right now, though that may change in a few years depending on how President Obama decides to deal with the issue of middle eastern peace.

TrashMan · **Reply #30 on:** March 23, 2009, 07:55:53 am

Quote from: Bobboau on March 22, 2009, 11:08:07 pm

why don't we drop the sniper issue for a moment.

it sounds like the guys who went room to room house to house killing everyone in sight are gonna get shot, or at least the guys in charge.

so can we expect Hamas to publicly execute the guys who fired the rockets into those shopping malls ect soon?

I'll believe it when I see it. I would be surprised if it doesn't end up the usual way - the military giving the involved a slip on a wrist and keeping it quiet untill the media looses interest and everyone forgets about it.

TrashMan · **Reply #31 on:** March 23, 2009, 08:00:42 am

Quote from: Scotty on March 22, 2009, 08:10:03 pm

All unnamed, citing undocumented incidents, and not naming anyone AT ALL that may have been invovled. Until they actually say who saw and did this, I treat it as propaganda. All of it right now is unfounded.

there's a link in the article that leads to another, more coprehensive one. It has some names too.

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They did mention other offenses and things like being ordered to destroy whatever they can or shoot everyone.

No. They said that they felt like they could vandalize things "just because they could," and even that is suspect to me. Granted, shooting everyone would be a war crime if you knew that every person in that building was innocent and in no way involved. RoE are made to protect one kind of person, either civilian or military. Given the Hamas and Gaza penchant for using civilians as suicide bombers, the RoE was completely justified.

No. They got orders to destroy the houses. To throw everything out the windows. Break everything of value so tthat the people really have nothing to return to.

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See last sentence above.

I have. Unwaranted. Always was, always will be. not to mention that the children and woman were going away from the soldiers. If they were bombers you'd reckon they'd go towards them.

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If I was in the army and my superior gave such an order, I would shoot HIM.
And be court martialed, found guilty, and SHOT. Just because he gave such an order is no grounds for shooting him.

And I'd die a happy man if need be.
And I reckon such an order is sufficient grounds for shooting children?

Quote from: Times Online

Israel is believed to be using controversial white phosphorus shells to screen its assault on the heavily populated Gaza Strip yesterday. The weapon, used by British and US forces in Iraq, can cause horrific burns but is not illegal if used as a smokescreen.

I've seen videos of white phosphorous rockets fired on houses, in the middle of a city, with people running away. No soldiers were even near.
If that is giving your troops a smokescreen, then the IDF is doing it wrong.

Commander Zane · **Reply #32 on:** March 23, 2009, 08:12:26 am

I'm with TrashMan on the WP, not ONCE have I seen Israel use it for screening & concealment.
It would seem odd that they were used on airbursting munitions that conviently spew the **** all over the place at a 45 degree cone right into crowds rather than in WP grenades.

Nuke · **Reply #33 on:** March 24, 2009, 04:02:07 pm

america still happily uses napalm and wp on people. i think its kinda cool way to kill people, not quite as cool as nukes though.

karajorma · **Reply #34 on:** March 24, 2009, 04:05:55 pm

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/mar/23/israel-gaza-war-crimes-guardian

Seems like no one can say that those making the claims are unidentified any more.

WeatherOp · **Reply #35 on:** March 24, 2009, 05:15:53 pm

Moral of the story, don't shoot missiles at Isreal.

karajorma · **Reply #36 on:** March 24, 2009, 05:29:25 pm

Don't shoot missiles at Israel cause we'll invade your country and commit war crimes against your civilian population?

Sounds more like an amoral to me.

Frankly I'm saddened that anyone would attempt to defend the commission of war crimes against someone who simply happened to be born in the wrong country.

WeatherOp · **Reply #37 on:** March 24, 2009, 05:33:00 pm

Quote from: karajorma on March 24, 2009, 05:29:25 pm

Don't shoot missiles at Israel cause we'll invade your country and commit war crimes against your people?

Sounds more like an amoral to me.

No, sounds like poke me with a small knife, I'll blow you away with my shotgun even if everyone screams when you splatter them with guts. Definitely, the moral to the story.

karajorma · **Reply #38 on:** March 24, 2009, 05:39:09 pm

Are you kidding me? Hamas order a rocket attack on Israel and that give Israel the right to tie children of that country to their jeeps in order to prevent them being shot at?

That conduct is disgusting.

Are you actually claiming that the commission of war crimes is justifiable as long as the enemy started the war?

WeatherOp · **Reply #39 on:** March 24, 2009, 05:46:44 pm

Quote from: karajorma on March 24, 2009, 05:39:09 pm

Are you kidding me? One person orders a rocket attack on Israel and that give Israel the right to tie children of that country to their jeeps in order to prevent them being shot at?

Disgusting.

Hmmm, I wonder if it worked?

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