[IronBeer]

Self-explanatory answer to the "Favorite Terran fighter" thread, I'd say. I debated whether or not to include the Colossus, but I did, and I also opted to include Vasudan ships to widen the choices somewhat.
Personally, I'd choose the Orion. There's just a degree of old-school badassery in it that the new ships just don't have, and a broadside can absolutely pillage any smaller ship class.
Vote, speak up, whatever.
[Edit]- Added the Sobek in... embarrassing oversight on my part...
[Edit 2]- Added the Hades, as well.. Geez, I'm not with it today.

[Rodo]

Deimos indeed... fast one, maneuverable, powerfull and blocky also!
besides the shape is  ... I hoped the model was completely finished.

The second best one would be the Aeolus... really nice model, and it's complete also.

[Snail]

The Orion has some nice firepower.

[wistler]

I've went for Aeolus because its a good fighter killer but because it was also under used in the main campaign so it's always felt quite fresh and exciting when i use it in missions. A bit of a wild card compared to the Leviathan and Fenris.

[FreeSpaceFreak]

Colossus all the way. The biggest, baddest and meanest GTVA ship there is.

[louiswuenator]

Deimos definitely.  Those things are nearly indestructible when they have fighter cover.  I would want the Warspite.  I could just sit on the bridge drinking tea while my fighter wings TAG with abandon.  Unless a Lilith jumps in, then I run.

[colecampbell666]

The Orion. It's the most majestic and nostalgic ship.

[wistler]

The Orion. It's the most majestic and nostalgic ship.

Yeah the Hecate never had the same feeling that the Orion did. When that used to come into view in fs1 you felt that it was a flying fortress ready to deal death.

[Mobius]

Deimos definitely.  Those things are nearly indestructible when they have fighter cover.  I would want the Warspite.  I could just sit on the bridge drinking tea while my fighter wings TAG with abandon.  Unless a Lilith jumps in, then I run.

Welcome to the HLPBB!!!

You're forgetting that, if those wings are eliminated, the Warspite would be seriously threatened.

By the way, I voted for the GTD Hecate. It's a fine destroyer in the Universe, although it's kind of meh in-game.

[Snail]

By the way, I voted for the GTD Hecate. It's a fine destroyer in the Universe, although it's kind of meh in-game.

There is no canon info whatsoever to support this. In fact, it's quite clearly contradictory to canon. The Hecate might only be superior due to its C&C abilities, carrier capacity or just general technological level.

According to canon, it's not intended for combat. As seen in game.

[louiswuenator]

Deimos definitely.  Those things are nearly indestructible when they have fighter cover.  I would want the Warspite.  I could just sit on the bridge drinking tea while my fighter wings TAG with abandon.  Unless a Lilith jumps in, then I run.

Welcome to the HLPBB!!!

You're forgetting that, if those wings are eliminated, the Warspite would be seriously threatened.


By the way, I voted for the GTD Hecate. It's a fine destroyer in the Universe, although it's kind of meh in-game.

Thanks for the welcome! 

Oh and with the Warspite, I assume that after your test mission, she no longer needs to slave her weapons systems to the TAG missiles.  So she's got ultra-AAA's to begin with, and the fighters augmenting the beams with the TAG (B) missiles.
Not so sure what she's got for anti-cap weaponry though.  Maybe she has upgraded slash beams as well?  Although I would think she would need a high output reactor for that.

[Mobius]

By the way, I voted for the GTD Hecate. It's a fine destroyer in the Universe, although it's kind of meh in-game.

There is no canon info whatsoever to support this. In fact, it's quite clearly contradictory to canon. The Hecate might only be superior due to its C&C abilities, carrier capacity or just general technological level.

According to canon, it's not intended for combat. As seen in game.

Well, the Demo reported interesting info about the Hecate. You're also forgetting the most relevant things(even under an ingame point of view):

1) The GVD Hatshepsut, unlike the GVD Typhon, has 135,000 hitpoints. The GTD Hecate has the same number of hitpoints as the GTD Orion, despite being refered to as a heavily armed and armored destroyer. In any case, by looking at the Hatshepsut, it's very hard to accept the fact that the Hecate is supposed to be an average destroyer in terms of hitpoints. It should have had something like 140,000 hitpoints;

2) Please note that the Orion fires a BGreen from a three-barelled turret, which is weird. I wouldn't count that when comparing the firepower of those ships;

3) The Hecate has bigger and dedicated beam turret subsystems. Although they've been balanced in the game(just like the hitpoints, maybe) the Hecate could, in theory, have had at least two BGreens;


Don't take table entries(tech descriptions excluded) so seriously...think about the GVC Mentu, for instance.

Thanks for the welcome! 

Oh and with the Warspite, I assume that after your test mission, she no longer needs to slave her weapons systems to the TAG missiles.  So she's got ultra-AAA's to begin with, and the fighters augmenting the beams with the TAG (B) missiles.
Not so sure what she's got for anti-cap weaponry though.  Maybe she has upgraded slash beams as well?  Although I would think she would need a high output reactor for that.

The beams were stronger for a) balancing, b) coolness and c) probably because TAGging implied less energy comsumption in terms of targeting/tracking, energy that could be easily diverted to firepower.

I doubt the Warspite kept the TAG-only configuration even after the test. The test itself proved to be dangerous so the GTVA realized that ships relying on the TAG system, only, would be easy targets. Also, I think that its anti-warship firepower increased according to its anti-spacecraft one...

[General Battuta]

The only thing more impressive than your devotion to canon is your willingness to alter it.

Snail's right, I'm afraid -- the Hecate's just underpowered. We can't pretend it's actually otherwise, because the in-game data is canon.

Voted for the Aeolus. Though, in retrospect, I might rather have had a Hatshepsut.

[colecampbell666]

The Orion. It's the most majestic and nostalgic ship.

Yeah the Hecate never had the same feeling that the Orion did. When that used to come into view in fs1 you felt that it was a flying fortress ready to deal death.

From B.C.?

[Mobius]

The only thing more impressive than your devotion to canon is your willingness to alter it.

Snail's right, I'm afraid -- the Hecate's just underpowered. We can't pretend it's actually otherwise, because the in-game data is canon.

Did you even read my post? From an ingame point of view Snail is right and I agree with him, but when it comes to the Universe you have to use logic. You can't fire a big beam from a three barelled turret, just to give an example. Also, you can't explain how the Hatshepsut is better armored compared to the Hecate.

In-game data is canon? What about the Mentu's description, then...?

[Aurora Paradox]

I voted for the GTD Orion.  Mainly because of the nostalgia factor.

[Mongoose]

As much as I'd love to throw down in an Orion, I'd rather not be subject to defanging by a single bomber.  In my opinion, the Deimos is just about the pinnacle of Terran capital-ship design, capable of dishing it out in healthy portions to both capships and fighters, so go ahead and stick me on the bridge.

(Also, Mobius, can the "canon vs. universe" talk.  The only thing we have to go on is in-game data, no matter how nonsensical you may find some of it.)

[Mobius]

The Deimos' description clearly proves how advanced its design is. The description is optimistic about the corvette.

Mongoose, by the way, we also have tech descriptions. Claiming that the Orion is so superior to the Hecate only because of debatable hitpoints and a three labelled turret firing a beam would be the only nonsensical thing here.

[Snail]

I don't see why you are so intent on directly going against canon.

[Mobius]

I'm not going against canon, for God's sake. Canon goes well beyond table entries, which were made with balancing in mind. would have never added a Hecate capable of taking down Moloch corvettes with multiple BGreens, for example. would have never added a Mentu capable of disarming many of the NTF Iceni's turrets(even beam cannons). I'm not saying that the Hecate should have this and that, but I'm encouraging you to consider balancing issues as well as the technological Terran engineers reached with the Hecate.

The problem is yours, because you're close minded. And this is not the first time you prove to be close minded.