[Rodo]

not that simple... it the orion turns you are fried no matter what.

the hecate... I think it has a beam turret on the back side so it doesn't even have to turn to blast you to hell.

the deimos is a versatile ship, fast and it can fire on every angle on the upper side of it's hull... the weak spot is on the lower part where there are no beam turrets.

[Enigmatic Entity]

Doesn't the Orion have all or most of its BGreens on the left? aka Vindicator?

[Commander Zane]

Two on one side, one on the other. The front beam however, allows the Orion to bring three on one side and two on another.

[Snail]

Just warp in behind the destroyer of your choice, fire for 5 minutes and warp out before you get killed by the explosion. Of course, you'll have to watch out for bombers and fighters, but this is between capital ships, so NO fighters or bombers...

CAPITAL SHIPS CAN MOVE!!!!!!!!!!!!

[jkalltheway]

....Which is why the Ursa is easier to fly than the Perseus? 

No, because the Ursa turns much slower than the Perseus.

He meant it in reference to the first quote, Orions are easier to fly because they are cuboids. Therefore, Cuboids fly easier. The Ursa is more of a cuboid than the Perseus is. Therefore, because the Ursa is more of a cuboid than the Perseus, it flies easier.

[General Battuta]

Just warp in behind the destroyer of your choice, fire for 5 minutes and warp out before you get killed by the explosion. Of course, you'll have to watch out for bombers and fighters, but this is between capital ships, so NO fighters or bombers...

CAPITAL SHIPS CAN MOVE!!!!!!!!!!!!

Seriously.

[Androgeos Exeunt]

Indeed, and I believe the pivot of the Orion is somewhere in the midsection, so...

[Killer Whale]

Well, it probably works with a self-destruct SEXP, a very unfair FREDder, a USilver, or an "invulnerable" flag

[Dilmah G]

Examining the FS Wiki, it could be a toss-up between the Orion and the Hecate.

Links: http://www.hard-light.net/wiki/index.php/Hecate     http://www.hard-light.net/wiki/index.php/Orion

The Orion has more beams, but the Hecate has flak cannons, which the Orion has none of. Something the Orion does have is more of the heavy cannons, which could be the decisive difference between the two.

Orion is better cap to cap, Hecate fills the role of "Carrier" much better though with anti-fighter defences, good as a "Supporting" craft.

[Snail]

Orion is better cap to cap, Hecate fills the role of "Carrier" much better though with anti-fighter defences, good as a "Supporting" craft.

The Hecate actually is much less 'efficient' if you know what I mean. The Orion would make do with 3-4 AAAfs to cover its more important flanks, but since the Hecate has so many places for fighters to hide, it needs a lot more.

[Mobius]

That's the price of a cool and complex design.

[Snail]

That's the price of a cool and complex design.

You can have cool and complex designs which don't have ****ting huge blindspots.

[Androgeos Exeunt]

Indeed. The Orion is a testament to boxy coolness. It may be old, but I absolutely love the Fighterbay and the runway. There is no other ship in the FreeSpace universe that has a runway apart from the non-canon UED Solaris. And it's not just an aesthetic feature either, because the AI uses it.

I cannot think of anything cooler than the Orion's Fighterbay.

[Snail]

The runway.

It's a bloody stupid feature IMO. Ships just fly on it and do nothing to avoid being shot at.

[Mobius]

The Orion is not a complex design. It's the HTL version that made it look so.

The Hecate looks far more complex.

[Snail]

The Orion is not a complex design. It's the HTL version that made it look so.

The Hecate looks far more complex.

Complexity isn't necessarily a good thing is it though. Both in terms of utility and design. Gothic designs are far more complex than, say, Classic designs but they're generally seen as a bit busy and ugly.

[Charismatic]

Hecate all teh way and deimos as #2. ares #3.

[Commander Zane]

If you consider the Ares a capital ship.

[Scotty]

It's got enough guns on it .

[Hades]

A Deimos class corvette and the Hades class super destroyer are tied for me... hm.