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A Temporal Weapon that can tie all fs2 campaigns together

Yes! the idea rocks, go for it
3 (8.3%)
Maybe.....
4 (11.1%)
I don't think so, lay off on the SpaceCrack
16 (44.4%)
You're a moron, don't talk again
13 (36.1%)

Total Members Voted: 36

Voting closed: March 27, 2002, 07:32:56 pm

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Offline LtNarol

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another crazy idea by me!
ok, i was thinking, since i was playing around with this idea, what you guys think: A new supership in Act VI of ITN (4th 158th campaign, also known as Renegade) that mounts a temporal weapon capable of erasing objects from history, from a small fighter to an entire civilization.  The ship will also have the ability to restore changes done by it as all changes it creates are stored with exacting detail in its computer banks (shielded from the effect of the temporal weapon).

Why do this?  It could provide the link between all fs2 campaigns, it can explain AP, saying that the shivans were erased.  It can explain different technologies and different paths of different campaigns as "a alternate future".  Say an asteriod that would have destroyed a transport carrying so and so was erased, now that person lives and the future is altered.

For those of you looking at me like :wtf:, i got this idea after seeing yet another rerun of Voyager, the "year of hell".  So, how many of you out there would support something like this?  Since it would provide a means to tie all fs2 campaigns together.

EDIT: just to clarify, this is not an attempt by me to take over other people's campaigns, i just thought it would be a good way to throw a :ha: in the faces of timeline issues, a convenient way to solve all timeline problems.
« Last Edit: March 28, 2002, 12:07:40 am by 528 »

 

Offline Zeronet

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another crazy idea by me!
crazy indeed,indeed.
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Offline Shrike

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another crazy idea by me!
This belongs in Gen FS...... I think.

Or perhaps last tuesday.
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Offline an0n

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another crazy idea by me!
All ITN work and too much Voyager make Narol a scary boy.
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Offline LtNarol

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another crazy idea by me!
the idea was to bridge all the campaigns so we'd stop worrying about timeline problems and conflicts.

 

Offline Shrike

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another crazy idea by me!
Personally, I prefer the trousers of time.....
WE ARE HARD LIGHT PRODUCTIONS. YOU WILL LOWER YOUR FIREWALLS AND SURRENDER YOUR KEYBOARDS. WE WILL ADD YOUR INTELLECTUAL AND VERNACULAR DISTINCTIVENESS TO OUR OWN. YOUR FORUMS WILL ADAPT TO SERVICE US. RESISTANCE IS FUTILE.

 

Offline Alikchi

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Meh, hmm..I don't like the sound of it..it makes everything else deriviative to ITN, and not everyone would agree to that.

:(
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Offline LtNarol

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another crazy idea by me!
no, not the case.  The model will be publicly available when it is ready, so will the new beam effect and a list of sexps and their set up to create the "erased" effect.  This way, anyone who wishes to use the model for a campaign can.  It'll play a role in the 158th, but it wont be exclusively 158th.  

EDIT: I may need some outside help to pull this off though, im not that good in Truespace for turreting and rotating subobjects.
« Last Edit: March 27, 2002, 09:05:34 pm by 528 »

 

Offline Grey Wolf

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Quote
Originally posted by Alikchi
Meh, hmm..I don't like the sound of it..it makes everything else deriviative to ITN, and not everyone would agree to that.

:(
Well, if you set it up to be that the ship was actually created in a timeline where no campaign was set, say where a cataclysmic event wiped out all of the Humans and Vasudans except for that ship and they were trying to return the universe to immediately before the event, but in a way that the event wouldn't happen....
You see things; and you say "Why?" But I dream things that never were; and I say "Why not?" -George Bernard Shaw

 

Offline LtNarol

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another crazy idea by me!
revised idea for this ship:

1. cratch ITN Act VI: Renegade
2. use Greywolf's idea of some gigantic catastrophe severely crippling the GTVA, the GTVA decides to screw with the timeline in order to restore its old glory.  So it begins...

 

Offline an0n

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another crazy idea by me!
Goody. More work.
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Offline LtNarol

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another crazy idea by me!
more for me and Vadar_1, not you, i will use ships from different campaigns, most of the work will be fredding which i will do.  The rest of the new stuff will be the beam and its effects stuff, which Vadar_1 is working on.

 

Offline CP5670

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another crazy idea by me!
The problem with this is that it would ruin the storylines in most cases. Suppose you had to escort a destroyer and you failed - enemy bombers blew it up, then all they have to do is alter the timeline so that it never got blown up, so you would win the mission anyway.

 

Offline Carl

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another crazy idea by me!
how are you gonna tie in the chicken one?
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Offline LtNarol

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another crazy idea by me!
Quote
Originally posted by CP5670
The problem with this is that it would ruin the storylines in most cases. Suppose you had to escort a destroyer and you failed - enemy bombers blew it up, then all they have to do is alter the timeline so that it never got blown up, so you would win the mission anyway.

Not if you're against it, trying to kill the next colossus in a bomber with a few wingmen.  It would provide an interesting campaign in my opinion and would provide an "explanation" to all the different campaigns: different paths, each created by a different change in history.  The campaign could be set either before or after the other campaigns.  But apparently half those who have voted think im on spacecrack....

 

Offline CP5670

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Well, if you are on the bombing team, then even if you destroy the enemy ship, they could just bring it back alive. :p The draining of resources due to war would have no meaning anymore. Or if the ship belongs to a faction that does have the technology, the GTVA should just send its own destroyer against the enemy. (this is the most plausible storyline progression) Even if their ship dies, they could simply revive it. :p
« Last Edit: March 28, 2002, 12:34:17 am by 296 »

 

Offline Liberator

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another crazy idea by me!
:devilidea

If you could somehow limit the uses of such a device, then it might have...possiblities.  Remember in "The Year of Hell" they calculated the changes in the timeline extensively before initating a "temporal incursion".

You could bring back something like the Colossus because it has relatively local impact on the timeline, but if you tried to save Capella...well, a star generates massive gravitational forces, these forces in turn affect everthing around them for many trillions of miles, so the act of restoring Capella might affect a change that the device never needs to be built and since it doesn't exist to save Capella, the Star explodes again, on and on, in a vicious repeating loop.
« Last Edit: March 28, 2002, 01:23:04 am by 607 »
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Offline Black Wolf

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another crazy idea by me!
What's wrong with the current thing? Who cares if Derelict and Unholy Alliance (Just random names) don't match up? We can't generate a standardized  post FS2 timeline for much the sme reason as we can't make FS3 - hell, exactly the same reason, plus more - we couldn't get universal agreement. Plus, I play campaigns and missions for the fun of a new campaign/mission, not to find out what happened after Capella. If :v: tells us, then I'll believe it.

As for a temporal ship, I've always thought FS2 was good because it refused to delve into changing the past. Changing the past is too good for any faction because it can guarantee that they will win. That's it. Hence, no story, no conflict, no campaign.
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Offline Setekh

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another crazy idea by me!
Now that's what I call a balanced poll. ;)

I like the idea. Good luck implementing it, though - and fitting it all in the tables. :D
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Offline HotSnoJ

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another crazy idea by me!
Something thats really scary is I'm working for this guy!
I have big plans, now if only I could see them through.

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