[Scotty]

Are you kidding?  I would watch a million clones of Hugh Laurie until the sun exploded.  And then some.  Him playing as House is made even more awesome because he's the deadpan snarker.

[General Battuta]

Ok, so instead of positive role model type characters you'd rather have 50 bajillion shows filled with Gregory House, M.D. clones or better yet a thousand Gaius Baltars.  That would be more boring than watching paint dry.

Not at all, but one or two shows executed well are nice...and you can have likable characters who are nonetheless flawed, or flawed characters who become likable (like Greer.)

You only need 'positive role models' if your audience consists of kids and idiots. Shows that describe reality are more fun than those that proscribe it.

[The E]

I am not a kid anymore. I don't want or need "role models" that were obviously designed as such. Real people are much more interesting.

[Blue Lion]

Ok, so instead of positive role model type characters you'd rather have 50 bajillion shows filled with Gregory House, M.D. clones or better yet a thousand Gaius Baltars.  That would be more boring than watching paint dry.

Watching people in complete control execute military operations would be utterly boring. Once people start to identify the heroic characters it almost sucks the suspense out of it.

[Liberator]

Perhaps, but we are talking about a show that takes place on a ship half a billion light years away, reality left you standing at the door.  I was weary of angst after BSG got done.  Now I get to have angst with plots I can figure out a week before they air based on what they left standing at the end.

Ah!  The joy of uncreative television!

@The E
But they aren't real, they are broken in ways that most real people would have been commited to an asylum or put in prison for...Roush particularly.

I'm not saying I don't like it.  I just dislike the trend it's following.

I want Superman and they're giving me Bobo the drunk who hasn't had a bath in a year.

[General Battuta]

But we just had two series of Superman!

Rush is awesome. I hate to say it, my friend, but a lot of savants are just the way he is...except usually with fewer social skills.

The fact that they start out in bad places will make it all the more fun when they do get their act together.

[The E]

Yep, Rush, with all of his FOR SCIENCE!-irrationality and general magnificent bastardry really is the most interesting character so far.

[newman]

I used to prefer shows with superman - like characters. Then I stopped being a kid, and found stuff like Sheppard the invulnerable, Ronin the Caveman and Teyla the Warrior Princess ridiculous. Give me Rush with his autistic quirks any day of the week over those comic book characters.

[Blue Lion]

I don't mind having good guys, but if I know they're all going to live to the end of an episode it's not as interesting

[Mongoose]

You only need 'positive role models' if your audience consists of kids and idiots. Shows that describe reality are more fun than those that proscribe it.

The thing is, for those of us who view our entertainment avenues of choice as a form of personal escapism, that "reality" being depicted is exactly what we're trying to escape from. I'm not saying that I don't appreciate realism from time to time in its proper place, but speaking generally, I'll stick to the Rule of Cool and non-Newtonian spaceships myself.

[Liberator]

Exactly.

If I want realism I'll turn on Law and Order.

[General Battuta]

Go watch SG-1 reruns, then.

I can't find any escapism when I know what's going to happen down to the littlest cut. And that's what SG-1/SGA eventually devolved into.

[Fury]

Character discussion aside, did anyone else find it odd that the Destiny managed to survive all the way into a sun's corona and then some? I mean, that spells like the Destiny is the toughest goddamn spaceship ever seen on SG, including city-ship and Aurora class ships. Which would be kind of a plot hole considering that Atlantis and Aurora are supposed to be far more advanced than Destiny. If Destiny was capable of withstanding sun, how on earth it could ever be harmed by any ship-to-ship weapons we have seen to date?

[Mongoose]

I'm not watching this series, so I can't comment on the specifics, but I can see a sufficiently-strong ship surviving for some time in a star's outer layers.  Though a star's corona is a few orders of magnitude hotter than its surface, its particle density is incredibly low, so there isn't a whole lot of matter actually coming into contact with a ship's hull.  Even the surface of the Sun has a particle density of only about 1% of that on Earth at sea level, according to Wiki.  Provided the Destiny is made of the sci-fi handwavium du jour, it seems plausible enough.

[Kosh]

Character discussion aside, did anyone else find it odd that the Destiny managed to survive all the way into a sun's corona and then some? I mean, that spells like the Destiny is the toughest goddamn spaceship ever seen on SG, including city-ship and Aurora class ships. Which would be kind of a plot hole considering that Atlantis and Aurora are supposed to be far more advanced than Destiny. If Destiny was capable of withstanding sun, how on earth it could ever be harmed by any ship-to-ship weapons we have seen to date?

I imagine it could be. Maybe it was specially designed to withstand quick trips into the sun to refuel, but it didn't stay for too long.

It is also possible it was made of special materials given the mission specific nature of the ship, it also explains why it runs off of stellar matter instead of ZPM's; since it is going out on an extra long distance trip it will need something that they can be sure to find in that sector: stars.

[Liberator]

OK, so they've solved the air problem, the power problem and next week and possibly the week after will solve the water problem, obviously Destiny is recycling they're waste so that's that problem solved, that leaves food, which while pressing seems less of an issue since the rations are holding up.

*possible spoiler*
Hmm, I smell someone dying from falling into a lake of liquid nitrogen when Destiny drops out of FTL in range of a ice moon, one of the disposable idiots will step on a weak spot and fall in, being flash frozen in the process.

Also, this "signs of battle" bull****, that bloody ship is 5000 centuries old, it's going to have a bit of wear and tear.  Aside from the hand weapons that the humans brought with them, I've seen nothing that remotely resembles a weapon, even an Ancient one.

[General Battuta]

I imagine there'll be an armory on board. Or they'll need a way to get more 5.56 and 9mm and 4.9 or whatever.

[Ashrak]

okhay how many of you seriously didnt know what was going to happen in this weeks episode, it was pretty much no pointi n watching it except for the CGI. last episode "were on a collision course with the sun and were out of power"

"out of power"? on a ship that has been running for billions of years? LOL.

frigin idiots.

+ how can you stand near a huge window while flying into a sun without scortching your eyes out.


Refer to sunshine movie.

[General Battuta]

okhay how many of you seriously didnt know what was going to happen in this weeks episode, it was pretty much no pointi n watching it except for the CGI. last episode "were on a collision course with the sun and were out of power"

I think everybody knew what was going to happen. We all know what's going to happen at Thermopylae and the Alamo too. It's still a good story.

+ how can you stand near a huge window while flying into a sun without scortching your eyes out.

The window probably has safety mechanisms, just like the one in Sunshine.

[Blue Lion]

I don't think they would have made a ship that could get that close to a sun and not put some kind of protection for people's eyes.