[NGTM-1R]

The main disappointment, as I see it, is that SGU has gone the BSG route of presenting a supposed military organization that's impossibly ****ed up as such, and couldn't ever have passed muster even in the admittedly lax Stargate program, but provided nowhere near a BSG-level of rationale for it.

And even BSG at least had the courtesy to present us with a reasonable starting point, got progressively more screwed up as time went on. In most of Season Two they probably could have squeaked by a review board still; taken a beating in the reports, but not been subject to mass courts-martial and disbandment. SGU hasn't got a hope in hell of that. These are clearly not the best and the brightest of Earth. Has the SGC really fallen that far? I doubt it.

[Blue Lion]

How many military personnel are there on the ship? I also think that the Rush being seemed to be "in charge" is helping fuel the actions of the military people because it doesn't even seem to have any order to it.

[Liberator]

The actions of the military people are born from a lack of firm leadership since Young was outta commision and his immediate is too busy ogling or ****ing the senator's daughter to actually provide any leadership.

[General Battuta]

I dunno, Scott seemed to be doing all right back during 'Air'. He hasn't had much of a need to lead since.

From the way the sex scene played out seemed more like she was ****ing him, anyway.

[Blue Lion]

You know, I'm really upset I missed that episode now. Thanks guys.

[Vetinari]

SGU isn't what I expected it to be (Although if they ever find any decent ships it would make a fun mod here) anyway the only selling point for the show is that Robert Carlisle has supposedly hinted at doing a few seasons of this, which I think is how they got the show to begin with as I know no one else in the show at all from any other show I watch on TV.

Still, 4 episodes in and it is still early days, it might just be a slow start building up to something reasonable. It might just be a bad start building up to a cancellation.

[lostllama]

Anyone still watching this, out of interest?

I just caught up with the most recent episode on our VCR... An awesome episode in my opinion. I was thinking it might turn into a two-parter near the end but when it finished I was left with the impression that it might not. The show has already demonstrated some strong continuity between episodes anyway, I guess.

Spoiler:

Ugh, those things!! Was anyone else reminded of Another World?

[BloodEagle]

I'm still watching it, if only so that I have credibility when I tell people how bad it is. (Though it is, admittedly, getting better).

Spoiler:

I was honestly happy (my neighbors can attest to this, as can the police who showed up at my door an hour later) when I saw her die. She's worse than any Mary Sue.

[MR_T3D]

I dunno, Scott seemed to be doing all right back during 'Air'. He hasn't had much of a need to lead since.

From the way the sex scene played out seemed more like she was ****ing him, anyway.

I flat out don't like scott, for some reason...
...i think its because many of us here likely kind of like Eli, so of course scott seems like a tool.
that guy was my reason to watch the show, but, alas, over here there's better things to do on friday night than watch a mediocre show..

[Herra Tohtori]

Spoiler:

I was honestly happy (my neighbors can attest to this, as can the police who showed up at my door an hour later) when I saw her die. She's worse than any Mary Sue.

Spoiler:

Don't celebrate yet. Even if you saw her die twice... She'll get better.

See, that episode was not about the real time line at all, but about two preceding ones. The first time line ended in the away team being slaughtered, second finding the Kino of the first time line and getting back to Destiny to view it, and people got ill there instead of on the planet. Then they sent another away team, which got slaughtered with the exception of Scott, who sent the Kino back in time for the THIRD and presumable "real" time line's away team to find. In the REAL time line, the away team will find the Kino with Scott's message about the disease, which will make them grab a few of those chestburster snakes, haul ass back to the ship, extract venom from the snake thingy and heal the disease, and next episode will be about all the shenanigans and difficulties that the real time line's crew will meet making this happen.

Of course, if you watched the episode carefully you knew this already.

So, yeah. Who needs causality if it's in the way of plotline...

Anyway, despite the predictability of the plot (to some extent anyway) I find the series, in general, watchable. Not as good as BSG season 1, but watchable nonetheless.

[Kosh]

It is watchable but it tries WAY too hard to be like BSG. Stargate has always had its own semi campy style, I just dont see how making it into Stargate: Battlestar Galactica is good for it.

[QuantumDelta]

Isn't it a bit more like lost than BSG? (ie; terribly****)

[Kosh]

The style is very much BSG, right down to the dodgy doctor. Young's demeanor, and the style of his statements seems like a carbon copy of Adama.

[Liberator]

After tonight's episode I am more convinced than ever that Telford is a real piece of work to untold levels.  There's a storm coming and the only "good guys" around to do the moral and upstanding thing are Young and Eli.  Scott, may he burn in hell, is a virtually catatonic at the revelation that his uninhibited fornication with anything with boobs and two legs has had consequences.  Chloe is less useful that a dead battery.  Roush...Roush will do what is best for Roush and God damn anyone that gets in his way.  The rest are going to come up against them somehow.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, I grow weary of this grim and gritty bull****.  If I want grim and gritty I'll turn over to the evening news for the latest example of political corruption that no one seems to do anything about, the latest in a string of murders no one seems to be able to stop or how little Billie Joe just turned 5 and is looking forward to Kindergarten where the teachers will proceed to tell her her parents are bad because they don't do this, this or thusandso.

As an aside, Jack O'Niell isn't acting the old Jack in the least little bit.  The old Jack wouldn't have put up with this black ops bull**** on the part of Telford and the rest.

[BloodEagle]

Just watched the latest, myself. I sincerely hope that, if they ever show up, the evil aliens heroic saviors kill everyone on that damned ship. Sans Eli, Young, and Greer, of course.

....

That would make a pretty good ending, actually.

[Liberator]

I'm not sure Greer's on "our" side either, tbh though.

I'm tired of this character buildup, it's been half a season of wingeing and angsty moaning with barely a peep of what made SG fun and popular in the first place.  I want to see what the deal with that ship that left Destiny at the end of pilot was all about.

[General Battuta]

If you don't like it, you don't have to watch it.

Stargate's formula was played out by SG-1 S6.

[The E]

Agreed. While I too want to see Chekhov's Starship fired, I find the character stuff quite fun. And while "lighthearted fun" is, well, fun, it is just a little snack compared to the meatier drama that a darker series can provide.

Science Fiction, as a literary form, has recently been more about human beings in extraordinary situations, and how being in those situations changes the humans in question. TV Sci Fi, in the past, was about the extraordinary situations themselves, and how they work, rather than about the people inside those Situations (This is a MASSIVE overgeneralization, and accordingly, not really true).
Now, in the last few years, TV SF has caught up to literary SF, and stay away from techity tech stuff. As a result, the writers have more opportunities to write about the things that writers find interesting, which (unsurprisingly), is people. And since happy people make for bad drama, we get something darker.
In a few years, we might see a rebound of "lighter" shows, but for now, character drama it is.

[Mongoose]

Now, in the last few years, TV SF has caught up to literary SF, and stay away from techity tech stuff. As a result, the writers have more opportunities to write about the things that writers find interesting, which (unsurprisingly), is people. And since happy people make for bad drama, we get something darker.

But where does that leave those of us who find the techity-tech stuff to be far more interesting than people?

[Herra Tohtori]

Stranded on the planet of the apes?

You maniacs...