[Liberator]

The thing about Eli is that he is the most interesting character on the show.  I kind of like the colonel and roush, but Eli is the only one who is even mildly relatedable.  The rest of the cast feels like the left overs from the casting call for Cloverfield.

[MR_T3D]

rush and eli and maybe the colonel are the only decent characters to me.

wish it was more light-hearted, like how SG-1 was.

good times.

[SpardaSon21]

You mean lighthearted like:

"Wormholes?"
"Giant worms.  HUGE."

[NGTM-1R]

You mean lighthearted like:

"Wormholes?"
"Giant worms.  HUGE."

More along the lines of

"Jaffa, Kree!"
"Yeah, I get that a lot."

I mean, they cured somebody of brainwashing by stopping his lungs, not his heart, and most certainly not his brain activity. That was Voyager level of bad right there. Stargate's never sunk to that level of basic plot brokenness before. If they start phasering cracks in spacetime, I'm not going to bat an eye now.

[SpardaSon21]

I find it hard to believe SG:U has done much polarity reversal.

[Scourge of Ages]

Dang it people! Stop linking to tvtropes! It'll take forever for me to stop reading now...

[Mars]

You mean lighthearted like:

"Wormholes?"
"Giant worms.  HUGE."

More along the lines of

"Jaffa, Kree!"
"Yeah, I get that a lot."

I mean, they cured somebody of brainwashing by stopping his lungs, not his heart, and most certainly not his brain activity. That was Voyager level of bad right there. Stargate's never sunk to that level of basic plot brokenness before. If they start phasering cracks in spacetime, I'm not going to bat an eye now.

For some reason it's pretty easy for me to believe that removing the oxygen from a room will certainly stop brain and heart just fine.

[Locutus of Borg]

Didn't they need to restart his heart when they came in?

[Klaustrophobia]

yes they did.

why are we debating anti-brainwashing techniques in a fictional TV show anyway?

[Liberator]

Beats me.  Why turn it down to vacuum anyway, down to 5 or 6 psi and pow everyone's out like a light and they can send folk in in the suits to tie up the Lucians.

[NGTM-1R]

For some reason it's pretty easy for me to believe that removing the oxygen from a room will certainly stop brain and heart just fine.

Yeah, but it won't do it in that order. You go unconcious. Your lungs stop first. Your heart stops next. Your brain stops last.

The bottom line is that he was still neurologically active, and a lot of it, or they wouldn't have been able to bring him back. Otherwise they might have been able to get his other two organs going again, but he'd be braindead. Since they needed to wipe programming from his brain, inducing and retriving artifical brain-death is about the only reliable way they could have done it. There are means for this in Stargate, but they didn't use a sarcophagus. (Maybe a hand-device, could have done it too, but that wasn't what happened either.)

Neither such thing was used. The only conclusion possible was that either the show was talking out of its ass, or the characters were and it didn't work.

[Klaustrophobia]

Where the hell are you getting this idea that the brain has to die for it to work?  In the SG-1 episode with the brain washing, T didn't die in any sense of the word, he had a near-death experience to break it.

[NGTM-1R]

Where the hell are you getting this idea that the brain has to die for it to work?  In the SG-1 episode with the brain washing, T didn't die in any sense of the word, he had a near-death experience to break it.

That was a different type of brainwashing, and it hard more than a near-death experience to break it in case you noticed.

Meanwhile, here, they specifically connected it to altered electrical activity in the brain.

[General Battuta]

So this show has actually gotten really good, and it's a shame it's not going to be on much longer. They figured out how to make their characters fun and relatable, built the usual Stargate gang of fun supporting characters (park and volker and what's-his-face are awesome), pushed Boy Scout and Chloe a bit back, and gave Robert Carlyle all the scenery he needed. Robert Carlyle is a beautiful man. He will make you gay.

Plus the sets have been engorgeousness'd with an infusion of lens flare.

This would absolutely have been the best Stargate if given a few more seasons. I really think this picture encapsulates my feelings about its cancellation:

[newman]

So this show has actually gotten really good, and it's a shame it's not going to be on much longer. They figured out how to make their characters fun and relatable, built the usual Stargate gang of fun supporting characters (park and volker and what's-his-face are awesome), pushed Boy Scout and Chloe a bit back, and gave Robert Carlyle all the scenery he needed. Robert Carlyle is a beautiful man. He will make you gay.

Plus the sets have been engorgeousness'd with an infusion of lens flare.

This would absolutely have been the best Stargate if given a few more seasons. I really think this picture encapsulates my feelings about its cancellation:

Quoted for full absolute Truth in it's purest form. Apparently there's a small chance it might get renewed. I'll post the link later if I remember to look for it when I get home.

[General Battuta]

I just watched Twin Destinies and the shots of Destiny above the star were just poetry. How vunderful!

[Luis Dias]

Carlyle is beautiful? Man, stop the weed, it's getting to you. He's ugly as hell with his persistent sad look, and that's the way I like him .

[Luis Dias]

So the show is on again? I missed that. I stopped seeing it in the tenth episode, in youtube (it doesn't air in Portugal) last year. I guess I have new things to see later at night .

[PsychoLandlord]

Now I feel bad. I watched one episode of this and dropped it, since I figured it was going to end up as Stargate: Voyager. I should try to find a few of the later episodes.

[General Battuta]

Now I feel bad. I watched one episode of this and dropped it, since I figured it was going to end up as Stargate: Voyager. I should try to find a few of the later episodes.

It doesn't start getting really consistently good until the second season, but the first season has a few excellent standouts like 'Time'.

also posting robert carlyle itt to create gays