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Which is, actually, either in overall or in some characteristics, the most effective juggernaut in FreeSpace?

GTVA Colossus
3 (8.3%)
SJ Sathanas
16 (44.4%)
SJ Amritaya
1 (2.8%)
AJ Akrotiri
1 (2.8%)
AJ Androgeos (Inferno)
0 (0%)
Vishnan Preserver
3 (8.3%)
GTVA Titan
6 (16.7%)
GTDn Archangel
1 (2.8%)
GTVBs Archangel Mk. II
4 (11.1%)
SODn Solaris
1 (2.8%)

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Offline NGTM-1R

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I'll take the equivalent tonnage in corvettes, thanks.

Preferably Chimeras.
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Offline TrashMan

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Given the number of custom ships, classification is a problem. People make ships for their own campaigns and balance them accordingly. And name them accordingly.

Who's stopping you from making a 20km long ships and naming it a Jugg?
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Offline Firartix

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Where you found all those ?
I only know about Sathanass and Colossus.
Well, they mention the "Colossal" at some point of Homesick, which they say is supposed to be 20km long (or something like that) <_<

I guess i better try Inferno....
Mmmh, right now, i'm going for Aftermath, maybe later :P

 

Offline Colonol Dekker

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Icanus still. Even if it is a super jug.
 
Punisher / shocker cannon wins.
Campaigns I've added my distinctiveness to-
- Blue Planet: Battle Captains
-Battle of Neptune
-Between the Ashes 2
-Blue planet: Age of Aquarius
-FOTG?
-Inferno R1
-Ribos: The aftermath / -Retreat from Deneb
-Sol: A History
-TBP EACW teaser
-Earth Brakiri war
-TBP Fortune Hunters (I think?)
-TBP Relic
-Trancsend (Possibly?)
-Uncharted Territory
-Vassagos Dirge
-War Machine
(Others lost to the mists of time and no discernible audit trail)

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Offline Commander Zane

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In retail colossus is clearly meant to be the GTVA's version of the Sathanas. See: both have the same armour, the same length, and are both the species super-capship of Doom!!TM, even if, later on the Sathanas Juggernauts outnumbered the collosus >80 to one, the Sathanas did not grow in size and power, only numbers (albeit, supernova).
What do numbers have to do with anything?

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Also note that the colossus and sathanas have equal casualties; colly kills sath, sath kills colly. It seems to be quite implied that the Colossus is on the same level as the Sathanas, to create a far greater realisation of "we are so in for it" when >80 show up. This seems to contradict, however slightly the "ONLY evidence of classification" it being dug up from a text reference in passing during a cinematic, which in the original game, read absurd text such as "Maths is cool" (pffft!)(or is it math is cool...) and is clearly not meant to be legible.
1: The Colossus is in function against the Sathanas of what the Demon is against the Ravana, defensive combat weapons placement against offensive.
2: How the hell does that contradict anything?
3: If it was meant to be illegible then they wouldn't have made it so easy to read.

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And, obviously due to the GTVA designation, the Colossus is definitely meant to be an advanced warning and control system following the line that freespace ships follow.
Wait...what? The Colossus has no AWACS traits unlike the Sathanas, so apparently the Sathanas should really be "SA" from what you're saying.

 

Offline Kie99

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Where you found all those ?
I only know about Sathanass and Colossus.
Well, they mention the "Colossal" at some point of Homesick, which they say is supposed to be 20km long (or something like that) <_<

That was supposed to be a joke, he was speaking about rumours he's heard, he wasn't supposed to be taken seriously.
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Sath is the only valid option for me, so I'm with the shivans here..
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Offline Marcov

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Given the number of custom ships, classification is a problem. People make ships for their own campaigns and balance them accordingly. And name them accordingly.

Who's stopping you from making a 20km long ships and naming it a Jugg?

Beyond 8 kilometers is already overkill  :D I mean, can a Sathanas be better against capital ships than an entire Gigas superjuggernaut?

OK fine, post about the bigger ones, but the choices still remain the same.
With the rapid increase of FS fan-made campaigns, we're giving the GTVA a harder time with more violence and genocide.

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* Androgeos Exeunt has voted.

Sathanas, HUR HUR HUR.

Killing a Sathanas was what prompted the GTVA to rely more on their smaller ships more than their big guns. There is no other ship in the FreeSpace universe that can make that claim.

If few people vote for the Ancient ships, it's probably because the Akrotiri is always placed in a position where it becomes pathetic (i.e. someone decides to blow up its main gun) and because nobody's ever used the Androgeos.
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Just wait a few days, to ASW release date.
Akrotiri's rating will quickly go up.
Androgeos will not be used jet, but it's too early for the largest guns (it's the first act of a much longer story).

 

Offline Commander Zane

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It's almost ready for release? :D

 

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Offline IronBeer

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Of those given, my vote goes to the Archangel II.

Course, my fav super cap is the Gigas. Just something about being able to blast a fleet of Juggernauts with one salvo.
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Offline Colonol Dekker

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OP shouild post images for those of us unaware (myself not included) of what said beasts look like...


Still no Icanus yet though :sigh:
Campaigns I've added my distinctiveness to-
- Blue Planet: Battle Captains
-Battle of Neptune
-Between the Ashes 2
-Blue planet: Age of Aquarius
-FOTG?
-Inferno R1
-Ribos: The aftermath / -Retreat from Deneb
-Sol: A History
-TBP EACW teaser
-Earth Brakiri war
-TBP Fortune Hunters (I think?)
-TBP Relic
-Trancsend (Possibly?)
-Uncharted Territory
-Vassagos Dirge
-War Machine
(Others lost to the mists of time and no discernible audit trail)

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Offline Killer Whale

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OP shouild post images for those of us unaware (myself not included) of what said beasts look like...


Still no Icanus yet though :sigh:
GTVA Colossus


GTVBS Archangel Mk2


GTDn Archangel


GTBs Moscow


GTVA Titan


SODn Solaris


TSJ Icanus


SJ Sathanas


SJ Amritaya


SJ Dante


SSJ Gigas


SPD Vinaashak


ACa Akrotiri


AJ Androgeos


Vishnan Preserver


Edit: added Akrotiri as it's on the poll list but not the Super Capital Ships list.
« Last Edit: December 27, 2009, 06:40:41 pm by Killer Whale »

 

Offline Colonol Dekker

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Why'd you post an Icanus pic without having a vote option. That's mean  :blah:
Campaigns I've added my distinctiveness to-
- Blue Planet: Battle Captains
-Battle of Neptune
-Between the Ashes 2
-Blue planet: Age of Aquarius
-FOTG?
-Inferno R1
-Ribos: The aftermath / -Retreat from Deneb
-Sol: A History
-TBP EACW teaser
-Earth Brakiri war
-TBP Fortune Hunters (I think?)
-TBP Relic
-Trancsend (Possibly?)
-Uncharted Territory
-Vassagos Dirge
-War Machine
(Others lost to the mists of time and no discernible audit trail)

Your friendly Orestes tactical controller.

Secret bomb God.
That one time I got permabanned and got to read who was being bitxhy about me :p....
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Offline Commander Zane

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And the Moscow.

  

Offline Colonol Dekker

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Umm-Hmm, i like that thing txtured up.
Campaigns I've added my distinctiveness to-
- Blue Planet: Battle Captains
-Battle of Neptune
-Between the Ashes 2
-Blue planet: Age of Aquarius
-FOTG?
-Inferno R1
-Ribos: The aftermath / -Retreat from Deneb
-Sol: A History
-TBP EACW teaser
-Earth Brakiri war
-TBP Fortune Hunters (I think?)
-TBP Relic
-Trancsend (Possibly?)
-Uncharted Territory
-Vassagos Dirge
-War Machine
(Others lost to the mists of time and no discernible audit trail)

Your friendly Orestes tactical controller.

Secret bomb God.
That one time I got permabanned and got to read who was being bitxhy about me :p....
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Offline Killer Whale

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Why'd you post an Icanus pic without having a vote option. That's mean  :blah:
I posted a pic of the ships we're talking about, not those we're voting on.

 

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And I vote for Stratcomm's Archangel dreadnought.
It's a great design, with one big, honkin' cannon on the front, two just big cannons on the top and bottom, and a whole load of standard sized heavy beams.
Plus a load of AAA beams scattered across it's hull and if that wasn't enough, it have some flak cannons and missile launchers.
If it was HTLed, it would be even better.
I think there actually is an high-poly version in Stratcomm's model dump. I'll have a look into it tonight.
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