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Would you like te see these modifications in the MediaVPs?

Yes! I can't believe they changed!
16 (40%)
Meh, could care less.
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No! Not my precious!
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Author Topic: Retail (Red) Subach/Mekhu - Updated again! Mekhu split off!  (Read 22136 times)

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Offline Zacam

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Re: Retail (Red) Subach/Mekhu - Upgraded! (Core changed as well)
Well, those are red. The FS2 VP shockwave is blue, and the MediaVPs are an enhancement over Retail effects. And while I'm sure we can ADD red ones and assign them case usage, total widespread defacto usage is probably not in the cards.

We need to focus on enhancing and/or adding to the Retail based concepts and content, not just willy-nilly wholesale replacement of it.

Those red one's do look hot though. I'll see what can be done. We may opt for an unsupported (as in, won't have table validation or the like if a table is used) Extended Package that can be at least certified to work with the MediaVPs for community content to go into that can storage this sort of stuff.
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Re: Retail (Red) Subach/Mekhu - Upgraded! (Core changed as well)
I'm not pushing for those shockwaves to be reintroduced, but the fact that they're now basically gone (unless you have them?) is what I was trying to highlight.
I can keep replacing the subach/mehku effect on my own end, but what if someone else wanted to do that, but the effects are gone?
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Re: Retail (Red) Subach/Mekhu - Upgraded! (Core changed as well)
Well, in this case it's a simple TBM edit, not a resource replacement. But I get the gist of what you mean.
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Re: Retail (Red) Subach/Mekhu - Upgraded! (Core changed as well)
Maybe have a few optional packs that users can submit for use alongside the MediaVPs listed somewhere. Like a "orange shockwaves pack" or something.

 

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Re: Retail (Red) Subach/Mekhu - Upgraded! (Core changed as well)
An old assets VP pack on FS mods?
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Re: Retail (Red) Subach/Mekhu - Upgraded! (Core changed as well)
Perhaps there can be an optional add-on pack (such as MV_Advanced) that will make most of the new effects either like retail or like an older FSU. Like a "retail" pack or "classic pack"

You know, could be named things like MV_Retail or MV_Classic366 or something. People would get it if they want to.

 

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Re: Retail (Red) Subach/Mekhu - Upgraded! (Core changed as well)
Maybe have a few optional packs that users can submit for use alongside the MediaVPs listed somewhere. Like a "orange shockwaves pack" or something.

That sounds like a good idea.
I kinda liked those teal afterburners too :P
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Re: Retail (Red) Subach/Mekhu - Upgraded! (Core changed as well)
I said the same thing about packs for the different versions of beamglows.
Everyone said to do it myself. :doubt:

 
Re: Retail (Red) Subach/Mekhu - Upgraded! (Core changed as well)
I really like the red Subach so I think we should keep it. How about a compromise, we keep the red subach as the new subach, and use the old subach graphics for the mekhu? Seems like a good compromise.

  

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Re: Retail (Red) Subach/Mekhu - Upgraded! (Core changed as well)
I really like the red Subach so I think we should keep it. How about a compromise, we keep the red subach as the new subach, and use the old mehku graphics for the mekhu? Seems like a good compromise.

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Re: Retail (Red) Subach/Mekhu - Upgraded! (Core changed as well)
Honestly, I think keeping the Mekhu red is fine, because it is, after all, just another variation of the Subach to be fitted onto Vasudan craft.
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Re: Retail (Red) Subach/Mekhu - Upgraded! (Core changed as well)
But it looks UGLY red, coming from the green glow on the Tauret etc.
Not so much an issue with the Terran craft.
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Re: Retail (Red) Subach/Mekhu - Upgraded! (Core changed as well)
I think we need a new poll. I agree Mekhu should be bluish/green.

 
Re: Retail (Red) Subach/Mekhu - Upgraded! (Core changed as well)
I really like the red Subach so I think we should keep it. How about a compromise, we keep the red subach as the new subach, and use the old mehku graphics for the mekhu? Seems like a good compromise.

Fixed.

That's not what I meant. Please don't change my posts.

 

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Re: Retail (Red) Subach/Mekhu - Upgraded! (Core changed as well)
Then you were proposing something irrelevant, as the MVPs Subach effect neither looks good as the Mehku (when compared to the MVPs Mehku effect), nor is "canonical", which are the two primary factors at work here.
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Re: Retail (Red) Subach/Mekhu - Upgraded! (Core changed as well)
Then you were proposing something irrelevant, as the MVPs Subach effect neither looks good as the Mehku (when compared to the MVPs Mehku effect), nor is "canonical", which are the two primary factors at work here.
That happens to be your personal opinion. This is also completely irrelevant, since your personal opinion isn't canon either.


While I agree with you (about the Mekhu looking better than the Subach) I don't think you should be going around "fixing" people's posts. It generally makes you look like a twat.

 

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Re: Retail (Red) Subach/Mekhu - Upgraded! (Core changed as well)
K. I think this is starting to degenerate from the topic at hand. Droid803, Snail, thank you both for your feedback on the subject. We will take the poll into advisement as we examine the effects that are in usage (with the goal of adding to them and diversifying them) and we'll see what we come up with.

Over all, it seems that people like the changes to the Subach and would like to see that, with the Mehku being a point of dispute. Operating on that assumption, I'll see if I can come up with some solutions on that effect.
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Re: Retail (Red) Subach/Mekhu - Upgraded! (Core changed as well)
K. I think this is starting to degenerate from the topic at hand. Droid803, Snail, thank you both for your feedback on the subject. We will take the poll into advisement as we examine the effects that are in usage (with the goal of adding to them and diversifying them) and we'll see what we come up with.

Over all, it seems that people like the changes to the Subach and would like to see that, with the Mehku being a point of dispute. Operating on that assumption, I'll see if I can come up with some solutions on that effect.
Sounds good. :)

 

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Re: Retail (Red) Subach/Mekhu - Upgraded! (Core changed as well)
K. I think this is starting to degenerate from the topic at hand. Droid803, Snail, thank you both for your feedback on the subject. We will take the poll into advisement as we examine the effects that are in usage (with the goal of adding to them and diversifying them) and we'll see what we come up with.

Over all, it seems that people like the changes to the Subach and would like to see that, with the Mehku being a point of dispute. Operating on that assumption, I'll see if I can come up with some solutions on that effect.
Sounds good. :)

Yep :nod:
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Re: Retail (Red) Subach/Mekhu - Upgraded! (Core changed as well)
Over all, it seems that people like the changes to the Subach and would like to see that

where did you get that? the poll says only 30% like it, 40% don't like it.
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