[Marcov]

The Lucifer COULD be a scout ship indeed. It was like:

Shivan Leaders: "Hey, can you mind exploring this galaxy, please, Lucy?"

Lucy: "OK"

Shivan Scouts: "The Lucy has been destroyed but in the process we have found a couple of new races in the process."

Shivan Leaders: "Good. Let's take a shot at them. Let's rock!"

*Sathanas comes in and pummels down Capella*

Though the departure of the Sathani still kinda puzzles me to an extent.

[BengalTiger]

That theory has nothing on the Capellan Barbecue Theory.

I think it also took a bit longer to create. 

[High Max]

The first Sathanas encountered was apparently a scout to the Sathanas fleet.

[Scotty]

We have no indication of that.

[NGTM-1R]

The first Sathanas encountered was apparently a scout to the Sathanas fleet.

Evidence. Now.

[High Max]

Do you know what the word 'apparently' means? I did not say 'is'. It's a logical tactic to see the strength of your enemy and picking a large and powerful ship with its supporting ships to do so since it is expected to survive long enough to determine the strength of the enemy since the Shivans have ships to spare and are not too worried with losing one super ship, though the Alliance beat them 32 years prior. So it makes sense to be careful and determine the strength of the enemy first. Maybe it was just there to scout Capella to see if it was a star they needed and to find out the strength of the forces there that might stand in their way before going through the trouble of calling in their other big buddies. Bosch might have had something to do with their actions. Who knows?

Maybe all the portals were dormant and groups of Sathani were separated from each other, and different sized Shivan forces were trapped in each system beyond Knosses 1 and were not united with each other. Maybe in the nebula, there was only one Sathanas separated from all others and no more could come in at first because Knosses 2 was not active, so they took Bosch with them to use Bosch to activate all of the portals all the way back to their core systems, and this enabled more Sathani to converge onto T/V space. Maybe that is why they captured Bosch. To re-unite all of their forces. Has that theory even been mentioned?

One other reason why only one Sathanas was present and was not with the others could have been that this Sathanas just happened to be the closest Sathanas to the Allied forces when the Alliance was invading the nebula, and it decided to go in and destroy the GTVA like the Lucifer did, but failed. So the others came instead, but for some reason did not try to destroy Allied forces in other systems. Or maybe it was trying to clear a path for the following Sathani so they could blow up the star to keep the GTVA out of their space by using the supernova to collapse the nodes and teach them a lesson in the process. Like saying 'Leave us alone. We don't want to waste time and too many ships fighting you'.

If anyone has other ideas, fire away. But if Capella was a real life event, imagine how frightening it would be too see all those ships.

Silly that V doesn't give info on all of that. What a waste if they can't even tell us what's going on and why. It decreases the storyline.

[NGTM-1R]

Do you know what the word 'apparently' means?

Do you? For something to be apparent, there has to be some kind of evidence for it. There's no evidence at all.

[High Max]

Apparently means 'it seems like it'.

Edit: It shows two definitions here: http://www.wordreference.com/definition/apparently ... and one of them (#2) is basically what I said; the other is what you meant (#1).

[Scotty]

Apparently means "seeming to be apparent."  Apparent, the word itself, implies an obviousness, or at least an easily made connection.  The is NO indication that the first Sathanas was just a scout.  Just because we only saw one first does not mean that it was only a scout.

[High Max]

http://www.wordreference.com/definition/apparent

2  apparent(a), ostensible, seeming(a)
 
   appearing as such but not necessarily so; "for all his apparent wealth he had no money to pay the rent"; "the committee investigated some apparent discrepancies"; "the ostensible truth of their theories"; "his seeming honesty"  

Just because we only saw one first does not mean that it was only a scout.

Same thing that you just said in that sentence and pretty much what I meant (I meant appeared to be but might not be). I meant it appeared so but it may not be so. You can't deny what it says there in the above definition. That is the one I meant; not the one that means 'obvious'.

Anyways, it isn't important to argue the wording.

[Scotty]

Here is a wonderful place to show the difference between denotation and connotation.  Denotation, which is exactly what the word means, dictionary wise, does not necessarily carry all the meaning that the word when actually used might.  This is connotation.  Connotation is extra meaning of a word used in differnet circumstances.  When you say "apparently," it implies the link is obvious.

There is no evidence, at all that the Sathanas was just a scout.  There isn't even a seeming link between the two.  Perhaps a better way to state it would be "could have been a scout," which is much less likely to get this kind of reaction.

[Ace]

The Lucifer COULD be a scout ship indeed. It was like:

Shivan Leaders: "Hey, can you mind exploring this galaxy, please, Lucy?"

Lucy: "OK"

Shivan Scouts: "The Lucy has been destroyed but in the process we have found a couple of new races in the process."

Shivan Leaders: "Good. Let's take a shot at them. Let's rock!"

*Sathanas comes in and pummels down Capella*

Though the departure of the Sathani still kinda puzzles me to an extent.

More like:


Shivan Scouts: "The Lucy has been destroyed but in the process we have found a couple of new races in the process."

Shivan Leaders: "Good. Let's send in a fleet of science vessels!"

*Sathanas fleet arrives*

[Desertfox287]

Science vessels lol, what's the Warship?

[High Max]

I think the Shivans are advanced enough to where they don't really need science vessels, and if they do, then they can make more than one kind of warship act as a science vessel.

[Dr. Pwnguin]

Science vessels lol, what's the Warship?

The massive ships from Blue Planet: AoA 

And Rakshakas are fighters!

[headdie]

Science vessels lol, what's the Warship?

The massive ships from Blue Planet: AoA 

And Rakshakas are fighters!

what the hell does that make the Seraphim a midge with attitude? 

[Paladin327]

what the hell does that make the Seraphim a midge with attitude? 

The Seraphim is the shivan equivilent of the GTSC Faustus, but more meneuverable that scans with its multitude of sensor beams and its large reserve of large scanning probes it uses on the GTVA's larger warships to collect data on them

[S-99]

I think it is proof that after the first sathanas got destroyed is when the shivans decided to get rid of the rest of the sathani. The method was the super nova.

The problem was that the shivans got stoned way too early and forgot that remote piloting the sathani to the blast site was a better idea. So they all got in the sathani and flew them to the capella star themselves.

This is the reason why you see half of the sathani just bugging out of there when the star goes boomie. At least half the fleet realized "OH ****!!!" and got out of there, while the other half were damn nearly stoned comatose enjoying their last light show.

[Desertfox287]

I think it is proof that after the first sathanas got destroyed is when the shivans decided to get rid of the rest of the sathani. The method was the super nova.

The problem was that the shivans got stoned way too early and forgot that remote piloting the sathani to the blast site was a better idea. So they all got in the sathani and flew them to the capella star themselves.

This is the reason why you see half of the sathani just bugging out of there when the star goes boomie. At least half the fleet realized "OH ****!!!" and got out of there, while the other half were damn nearly stoned comatose enjoying their last light show.

  That was my response to that. No what did they get stoned on?

[NGTM-1R]

He's still upset we demolished his argument about retiring the Lucifer.