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Offline General Battuta

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WELP i disagree

 

Offline Kosh

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Deus Ex: Invisible War upset this balance completely, which is why I considered it such a flop. It tried to streamline the fps action but produced a weird, clunky gameplay mechanic that was inferior in almost every way to DX1. It would have been tolerable had the story and general feel of the world been given justice compared to those same elements in Deus Ex 1. Instead we got a story that started out mediocre and spiraled downwards to true stupidity as you went on with the game. The graphics integration was problematic at best and the options given to the player were dumbed down to an extreme. The result was a game that didn't really know what it was; a story based action adventure or a pure fps shooter? It tried to do both and it failed in both segments. This, for me, did not constitute a good game.


I also add that one thing the game notorious for was its terrible characterization. It was hard to feel anything if they died, and some of them were so annoyingly badly done I was glad when they did.
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Offline Demitri

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Don't know if folk have seen this or not but both Deus Ex &  Deus Ex: Invisible War are in the Steam sale and you can pick up the 2 of them combined for £2.49 or £1.49 separately. At time of writing they are at this price for about another 5 and a half hours. Pretty good if you haven't played either of them and want to see what the fuss is about before the new one comes out.
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Offline Kosh

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I wonder when the original will be remade with a more modern engine while preserving it's original awesomeness.
"The reason for this is that the original Fortran got so convoluted and extensive (10's of millions of lines of code) that no-one can actually figure out how it works, there's a massive project going on to decode the original Fortran and write a more modern system, but until then, the UK communication network is actually relying heavily on 35 year old Fortran that nobody understands." - Flipside

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Offline Unknown Target

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Just bought the pack off Steam. :D Can't wait until I'm done slogging my way through the first levels. :3

 

Offline -Sara-

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I wonder when the original will be remade with a more modern engine while preserving it's original awesomeness.

A russian modder was remaking it with HD models/levels etc. No idea if he continued.
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Offline Luis Dias

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Just bought the pack off Steam. :D Can't wait until I'm done slogging my way through the first levels. :3

I was talking about this: http://www.blackmesasource.com/

 
And we were talking about deus ex I think... It's getting all hazy in that post of yours.

 

Offline Unknown Target

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I'm playing through DX2 for the first time, after not having played DX1 in quite awhile. Make no mistake; the game is stiff to play, the voice acting is laughable, the interface is cumbersome, and for some reason the game assumes I've never played a first person shooter before, let alone DX1; the tutorials it forced me to go through were awful; I only read one and all it told me was that the spinning thing at the top of the screen with N, NE, E, etc, on it, was a compass.

However, I'm starting to pick up the threads of the plot, and it does seem to be interesting; it's this sort of idea where JC Denton was this really exceptional individual that resolved a serious crisis, so the world was like hey, let's mass produce more units like him and use them to solve all our crises.

It's a lot like ok, if there what was essentially a second coming of a messiah figure in the Deus Ex world, what would the people of the world do? Try to copy it and make as many of them as possible to use for their own purposes.

I still haven't left the training facility yet, we'll see where this goes if I even continue it at all lol.

 

Offline BloodEagle

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However, I'm starting to pick up the threads of the plot, and it does seem to be interesting; [....]

I still haven't left the training facility yet, we'll see where this goes if I even continue it at all lol.

Prepare to be disappointed. :/

 

Offline Jeff Vader

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I don't consider DXIW to be a really bad game. I mean, there were annoying/dumb things like one-ammo-fits-all, horrible voice-acting, having to watch loading screens after every door/corner and, well, if you compare it to the original Deus Ex, it defs isn't of the same caliber. But there were those few good moments, like sneaking around in Seattle. And Kidneythieves <3
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

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15:47 < EvilBagel> butt
15:51 < Achillion> yes
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18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

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11:50 < achtung> Double Vaginal Double ANal
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Offline NGTM-1R

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Yeah, IW isn't actively bad. At its worst, it's merely annoying, and at its best, it's actually pretty amusing.
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Offline Unknown Target

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Haha oh man I was having a laugh in the very beginning level throwing pots and dead bodies on top of people to see totally out of place reactions.

 

Offline StarSlayer

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Offline CP5670

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The initial Tarsus part is dull but the Seattle level is easily the best one in the game. The later levels, especially the last three, were obviously rushed in development compared to that one. I believe you can turn off the tutorial popups.

There is a lot of hilarious stuff you can do with the physics engine, an early version of Havok that had lots of glitches and odd behavior. Piling up bodies and throwing stuff on them causes them to fly around or become permanently stretched. I had a great time with just this aspect of the game. :D You can also irritate NPCs by picking up objects in front of them while you're holding something. This somehow gets them very angry, more so than if you throw stuff at them.

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I don't consider DXIW to be a really bad game.

The thing is, it's gotten a bad name mainly due to the Deus Ex connection. I can think of many games after IW that had inferior plots or gameplay but which were generally well received.

 

Offline Hades

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the game is stiff to play, the voice acting is laughable, the interface is cumbersome
Sounds exactly like Deus Ex 1
[22:29] <sigtau> Hello, #hard-light?  I'm trying to tell a girl she looks really good for someone who doesn't exercise.  How do I word that non-offensively?
[22:29] <RangerKarl|AtWork> "you look like a big tasty muffin"
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<batwota> wouldn’t that mean that it’s prepared to kiss your ass if you flank it :p
<batwota> wow
<batwota> KILL

 

Offline BloodEagle

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the game is stiff to play, the voice acting is laughable, the interface is cumbersome
Sounds exactly like Deus Ex 1

Way to live up to your title, there.  :no:

 

Offline Hades

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Except I'm not trolling. I'm also not looking at the first with nostalgia goggles.
[22:29] <sigtau> Hello, #hard-light?  I'm trying to tell a girl she looks really good for someone who doesn't exercise.  How do I word that non-offensively?
[22:29] <RangerKarl|AtWork> "you look like a big tasty muffin"
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<batwota> wouldn’t that mean that it’s prepared to kiss your ass if you flank it :p
<batwota> wow
<batwota> KILL

 

Offline NGTM-1R

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Having just replicated the DEATH TO THE VACUUM CLEANER trick, I defy you. Deus Ex is the best game ever.
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