[newman]

Now, everyone's entitled to their opinion - unless it's about DeusEx 1; that was the best game ever made. Anyone who disagrees should be burned at the stake to preserve our democracy.
Also, UT, you may find the plot of DeusEx 2 interesting at first, but it gets bad and spirals down to rushed stupidity as you get closer to the end. The end itself is laughable. The plot is definitely not something DeusEx 2 can brag about. You might find it entertaining - hell, some people thought Jar-Jar was entertaining - but IW wasn't a good game by a long shot.

[Luis Dias]

Anyone who disagrees should be burned at the stake to preserve our democracy.

I'd like u 2 try >

[mxlm]

Word is you can prepurchase this for $28.80 at Green Man Gaming, using the code FACEB-JULY2-20PEC

Which I just did.

[The E]

Preordered the augmented edition on Steam, yay

[Scotty]

So, just saw a commercial for it.  While I know it's not in-game, it looked ****ing awesome.  And I haven't even played the first Deus Ex.

[Unknown Target]

Now, everyone's entitled to their opinion - unless it's about DeusEx 1; that was the best game ever made. Anyone who disagrees should be burned at the stake to preserve our democracy.
Also, UT, you may find the plot of DeusEx 2 interesting at first, but it gets bad and spirals down to rushed stupidity as you get closer to the end. The end itself is laughable. The plot is definitely not something DeusEx 2 can brag about. You might find it entertaining - hell, some people thought Jar-Jar was entertaining - but IW wasn't a good game by a long shot.

TBH I can't even get past like the third level at this point. This game is crap. The interface is obnoxious, how much thought did they put into all those fancy radial menus? I bought it and I'm probably never going to play it. I wish Steam did returns.

[TrashMan]

I'd probably like Deus Ex a lot more if it weren't all cyberpunk-ish. Not a big fan of cyborgs and cyberpunk.
But it was a very good game.

[-Sara-]

It seems someone picked up the DX1 upgrade. Giving it an HD texturing and approach.

[Achillion]

It seems someone picked up the DX1 upgrade. Giving it an HD texturing and approach.

I was completely unaware of this!
... and it's officially out: http://www.moddb.com/mods/deus-ex-new-vision
Hell I'd delay playing Human Revolution to finish a play-through of this. I know it's probably just HD textures and nothing more but it's still a nice way to get in the mood for HR.

[Hades]

I dunno if you'd want to put of HR to play Deus Ex 1, from what I've played of HR it is really, really good and vastly superior to DE1.

[Achillion]

Well it's not like I'm any particular rush. I usually don't mind not playing games on launch day.
Human Revolution is probably the only game I actually felt anticipation for since the last Jedi Knight game. I play a lot of games, but I never get too hyped about most of them, especially considering the copy-paste nature of most AAA titles.

That said, even with HR, I planned on waiting a couple of months until I could afford to build a new PC because I suspect my current one wouldn't cut it. As the date draws near though I'm considering just ordering the parts now and living off canned beans for a few weeks!

[JCDNWarrior]

Awesome, thanks for pointing out that New Vision's released. I've been using HDTP, New Vision and a few other mods together, plus my own ENBSeries config. Looks much better that way, though ENB is always Your Mileage May Vary. I'll go get Deus Ex reinstalled to see how much New Vision has added since last time. Should also get that other mod that adds a lot of detail (buildings, etc) to the environment.

[-Sara-]

I think I'll get DX3 too. I'm not huge on the endless shooting (which was more common in DX2 which I did not finish), but I really liked the open options and not having to follow one storytelling path, but rather having to attach lose ends in one area (something which imho KOTOR etc did not achieve, which despite different outcomes still tried to push you forward, something which DX did far more subtly). I might wait a month, in case it disappoints after all.

[Achillion]

That said, even with HR, I planned on waiting a couple of months until I could afford to build a new PC because I suspect my current one wouldn't cut it. As the date draws near though I'm considering just ordering the parts now and living off canned beans for a few weeks!

Well, my new parts arrived yesterday. This thread (in addition to all previous hype) just set me back 750 euros.

 

[JCDNWarrior]

That said, even with HR, I planned on waiting a couple of months until I could afford to build a new PC because I suspect my current one wouldn't cut it. As the date draws near though I'm considering just ordering the parts now and living off canned beans for a few weeks!

Well, my new parts arrived yesterday. This thread (in addition to all previous hype) just set me back 750 euros.

 

Treat it well and enjoy the beauty it will produce on the screen for you There's quite a few benchmarks and stress tests to try out too. What specs did you get by the way?

[Achillion]

Copy pasting order confirmation email:
MSI GeForce GTX 560Ti OC Twin FrozR II 1024MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card
Intel Core i5-2500K 3.30GHz (Sandybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor
MSI P67A-GD53 Intel P67 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard ** B3 REVISION **
Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9)
Samsung SpinPoint F3 1TB SATA-II 32MB Cache - OEM (HD103SJ)
BeQuiet Dark Rock Advanced CPU Cooler (Socket LGA 775 / 1155 / 1156 / 1366, AM2 / AM2+ / AM3 / 754 / 939 / 940)

Still in the process of installing Windows. First thing is OCing that CPU to ~4.5 GHz then it's off to Futuremark.

[JCDNWarrior]

A fine choice, almost like my specs. Got a i5 2500k a little while ago too, but with a Intel 320 120 GB SSD instead of the Samsung Spinpoint F3, though that hard disk is also quite a good (let alone very cheap) choice for price/performance. Also got GTX 460 as I got it before the 560 came out. You can definitely run everything maxed out with such specs as these for quite a few years.

People often assume they need to upgrade hardware every two years, but there's a misconception between optimization and system requirement. An example I found out in 2007 with the (in)famous Crysis was that a relatively single 'ultra high config' allowed for better graphics yet much lower system requirements and acceptable frame rates. Same for various ported games over the years. In reality the fidelity and detail that can be gained is much higher than most people assume, its something I like to explore myself. To think what we could indeed have technologically in the year 2027.

I hope Deus Ex Human Revolution will definitely make good use of the hardware that's on hand, even with the limitations that consoles bring with them. Sometimes you don't even really need to use high detailed environments to give a certain sense of reality, for example the New York skyline in Deus Ex 1.

Furthermore i'll have to wait a few more days until the game hits retail here in Europe. I wonder if Steam is keeping it locked for a few days like they did with a few other games over the years...I better start avoiding this thread for risk of spoilage

[Achillion]

Completely agree with not requiring upgrades every 2 years. While it's nice to keep your hardware new, it's not a necessity. My previous PC was built in 2006 (or 07, can't remember exactly). I did add a second VGA for SLI and did a bit of OCing (from 2.6 to 3.2 GHz), but most games ran smooth without requiring the SLI configuration to be enabled.

I think the misconception you speak of comes from the somewhat more rapid advancement of graphics technology in the past. It seems that in the early 2000s (and probably late 1990s), you really did need new hardware to play the games that were coming out every 6 months. I think the current console generation, coupled with current graphics offering close to the limit of the average person can distinguish in terms of fidelity, has caused hardware requirements for games to plateau. There's no way a computer built in 2000 would be able to run a graphically demanding game made in 2004. In 2011 though, a computer built in 2007 is still a viable gaming platform, e.g., it can run Crysis 2, Dead Space 2, etc decently without sacrificing resolution and lowering graphics settings.

European customer here too. Have to wait until the 26th.

[MP-Ryan]

I dunno if you'd want to put of HR to play Deus Ex 1, from what I've played of HR it is really, really good and vastly superior to DE1.

I'll believe it when I play it.  Deus Ex is one of my top 3 best games I've ever played, accompanied by System Shock 2 and Portal.

[Luis Dias]

Moore's law is unabated. Progress is as fast as ever before.

What is happening now is slightly different. For one, it is the consoles who are driving the developers of games, instead of the PC. Xbox 360 was born in 2005, almost 6 years ago. FS3 came one year later. They were very good graphical machines, and because they are highly predictable (if you develop for one xbox, you have developed for every one), graphic engines were able to optimize to amazing levels, and we have BF3 as a testament to that.

Thing is, the pc continued to progress, and now we have in the pc world something like 10 to 20 more horse power than in the consoles. Highly unoptimized, though, and considering that the games are developed for the consoles and not the pcs, it's understandable that people are "bored" by the lack of progress.

However, I would recommend people to watch the best games of 2003, and compare them with 2007. And then watch the BF3 trailer. There is no denying that huge improvements are being made. They are just getting more and more subtle.

We can also see that the current gen of consoles is one generation "behind" schedule, because of this thing called the wii. The wii forced PS and Xbox to focus not on graphics but on this interactive gameplay. The "eight" console generation is defined by the kinect and the move instead. But there are new consoles in the horizon. Either in late 2012 (unlikely) or in late 2013 (more likely) we will see the next generation of consoles. And they will be 10 times more powerful than this generation.

I'm not suggesting much more than ten times because if they tried to do the same thing they did in 2005 with amazing specs on the consoles and 600 bucks price points, they would fail real hard in the market. Simply put, the graphical differences will not be so compelling as they were until 2005. People will say "ha, Ps3 graphs aren't perfect, but they are just fine for my everyday games, and that's ok, I won't spend 600 bucks on better graphs than these anyway". But they will pay 300, 400 in the first months.