Author Topic: New Deus Ex?  (Read 60794 times)

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Offline Fury

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Do you believe that this will achieve the long-term status of the first one? Will we be talking about how good it was in 10 years and hold it up as a milestone in game history? Will we be telling then 15-year-olds that they should go and play DX:HR and try to get over the dated graphics because the story is really really good?
I really doubt it. DXHR is a good game, but let's admit it that there really haven't been spectacular games in really long time. Most are bad, some are average and few are good. But spectacular games? I honestly can't remember any. As such, a good game does stand out when most games are average at best.

If we continue to compare DXHR to DX1, it is obvious that DXHR is modern game but it is also dumbed down. For example, DXHR completely lacks skill system and lockpicking. All computers, security systems and locks in DXHR are based on hackable electronics. And no proper melee, only takedowns. I'd say that DXHR could have used a few things from Fallout 3 to make the gameplay more diverse and complex. Part of the reason why DX1 attained such following, was exactly because the gameplay was diverse and complex, even if combat was stiff and ugly. But I feel combat in DXHR doesn't quite click either, unfortunately.

 
A weapon proficiency system would have been nice, the kind that makes you more adept at handling a weapon the more you use it.

 
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And no proper melee,

Clicking someone repeteadly untill they die (DX1) does not classify as melee for me. The subtle difference is that in DX3 you only press the button once.

 
He's got a point. I never used melee in DX1 except for the stun prod or a crowbar on supply crates.

 

Offline Commander Zane

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I whored the Dragon Tooth sword for the rest of the game when I picked it up. :D

 

Offline Mefustae

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I whored the Dragon Tooth sword for the rest of the game when I picked it up. :D

Dragons Tooth and GEP Gun combo; murder mooks at any range.

As for DX:HR, a fully upgraded heavy machine gun is pure practically a war-crime with the appropriate recoil upgrades.

 
Heh. I am now playing trough Deus Ex: Human Revolution (One of the group I regularerly play Arma with had a spare copy, so he gave me the key :D), and the idea for me is now just to spend Praxis Points as I need them (and not when I get them, which was unfortunately what I did first...). The plan for the set up is basically someone who can ensure that he always has the upper hand in any situation before any fighting actually happens. Thus, a high emphasis on exploration.

 

Offline Ravenholme

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Full Auto - I've got a bullet here with your name on it, and I'm going to keep firing until I find out which one it is.

<The_E>   Several sex-based solutions come to mind
<The_E>   Errr
<The_E>   *sexp

 
That was BRILLIANT!

 

Offline Ravenholme

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Full Auto - I've got a bullet here with your name on it, and I'm going to keep firing until I find out which one it is.

<The_E>   Several sex-based solutions come to mind
<The_E>   Errr
<The_E>   *sexp

 

Offline mxlm

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This is what happens if you refuse to perform basic maintenance on the apartment in which Adam Jensen lives. Very minor spoilers, completely safe to view if you've made it to the second hub.

I really doubt it. DXHR is a good game, but let's admit it that there really haven't been spectacular games in really long time. Most are bad, some are average and few are good. But spectacular games? I honestly can't remember any. As such, a good game does stand out when most games are average at best.
« Last Edit: September 06, 2011, 07:31:54 pm by mxlm »
I will ask that you explain yourself. Please do so with the clear understanding that I may decide I am angry enough to destroy all of you and raze this sickening mausoleum of fraud down to the naked rock it stands on.

 
Um ... wrong video link, mxlm?

 

Offline Ravenholme

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Um ... wrong video link, mxlm?

I'm pretty sure that's the wrong link :p
Full Auto - I've got a bullet here with your name on it, and I'm going to keep firing until I find out which one it is.

<The_E>   Several sex-based solutions come to mind
<The_E>   Errr
<The_E>   *sexp

 

Offline mxlm

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I will ask that you explain yourself. Please do so with the clear understanding that I may decide I am angry enough to destroy all of you and raze this sickening mausoleum of fraud down to the naked rock it stands on.

  

Offline Commander Zane

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I lost my **** watching that video. :lol:

 

Offline Fury

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Completed the game a short while ago. Here's hoping for a sequel soon. :)

 
They announced that they have DLC coming, but to be honest, I think I would prefer if there was no sequel or DLC. I think it might cheapen the name if DX becomes a modern franchise. Maybe I'm just weird though.

 

Offline Fury

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Speak for yourself. I want more.

Which reminds me, waiting until end of the ending credits is well worth it.

 
Yahtzee's Zero Punctuation of Human Revolution is out today.

He also did a retrospective on the original Deus Ex last week if you're interested.

If you're unfamiliar with the critic in question, he basically rants about all the things he doesn't like in a game. His general philosophy is "if I didn't mention a specific part of the game, chances are I liked said parts". To the uninitiated, it may seem like he hates every single game ever made.

 

Offline Mikes

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If you're unfamiliar with the critic in question, he basically rants about all the things he doesn't like in a game. His general philosophy is "if I didn't mention a specific part of the game, chances are I liked said parts". To the uninitiated, it may seem like he hates every single game ever made.

Except Portal :)