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by my understanding the current darleks are original strain as in what davros first created not the slightly modified versions that davros has created since to try and make them more deadly which is what we have been seeing until this series.  In the books and some TV episodes the darleks have shown capable of putting their exterminate objectives aside to further the davros/the empire (yes the the objectives can be contradictory at times) which is how the doctor has survived many encounters. 

Also the darleks dont want to destroy the universe, they want to be the master race of the universe and all other universes encountered.  that all goes boom, so do they.
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Also the darleks dont want to destroy the universe, they want to be the master race of the universe and all other universes encountered.  that all goes boom, so do they.


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They tried to literally destroy the universe in the last series. With a reality bomb. As in everything, themselves included, goes boom.
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I thought the reality bomb just destroyed all life except that which was within the crucible ship/structure/thing.

ok stand corrected just looked it up and tardis.wika.com states the following
http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Reality_bomb
The weapon made use of the Stolen Planets transported to the Medusa Cascade, captured by the New Dalek Empire, along with the unique Z-Neutrino-based energy source of the Crucible. This bomb worked by canceling out the electrical field holding atoms together, and is capable of wiping the entire universe and all of creation; all except for those within or near the Crucible. Once the weapon penetrated the time rift at the heart of the Medusa Cascade, it would spread into every parallel universe and alternative dimension as well. The reality bomb was planned to destroy all other forms of life in every universe - except for that of the Daleks, to make them become the only race in all of existence.

the difference here is there is no escape for the darleks so they still die

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They tried to literally destroy the universe in the last series. With a reality bomb. As in everything, themselves included, goes boom.

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Except that that Season finale, and some of the events of that and previous seasons, seem to not have happened in the current season's backstory (note Amy not knowing about Daleks on their first encounter, or any of the other world-changing events of previous years.)

Besides, getting rid of the Doctor should be pretty high on the priorities of any race with martial ambitions. Might have a high enough priority for them to form this alliance to lock the Doc away and then start shooting at each other.
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Amy doesn't have any parents.... Any memories of major events.



The first crack was at her house....................

SHE'S EVIL I TELLS YA"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Still hot though :nod:
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And the duck pond in her village doesn't have any ducks in it!  :nervous:
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Amy doesn't have any parents.... Any memories of major events.



The first crack was at her house....................

SHE'S EVIL I TELLS YA"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 :shaking:








Still hot though :nod:

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Exactly, Amy lived in the house with one of those cracks for years, whose to say which side she is from originally? We never see family, only friends, and I still think there is some kind of link between the Duck Pond from the first episode and Amy Pond, though I couldn't even begin to guess at what. Amy is the key, I'm certain of it, I'm just not sure how....

Edit: I see Wobble noticed that too....

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Just a thought, if the Pandorica is created by Amy's mind, does that make her Pandora, is she the one who re-releases hope back into the world?

 

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Am I the only one annoyed at the motives of the Daleks in these episodes?

I mean they are, supposedly, trying to save the universe. Can anyone remind me what their last appearance in the last series involved?

Oh, that's right, trying to destroy the universe!

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Their motives were purely selfish: They wanted to save themselves. They just used the destruction of the universe as a way to rally support. The last time they tried to destroy the universe, they had a bomb shelter aailable to preserve their race. This time they don't, so it's plan b.
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Amy doesn't have any parents.... Any memories of major events.



The first crack was at her house....................

SHE'S EVIL I TELLS YA"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 :shaking:








Still hot though :nod:

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Exactly, Amy lived in the house with one of those cracks for years, whose to say which side she is from originally? We never see family, only friends, and I still think there is some kind of link between the Duck Pond from the first episode and Amy Pond, though I couldn't even begin to guess at what. Amy is the key, I'm certain of it, I'm just not sure how....

Edit: I see Wobble noticed that too....

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Just a thought, if the Pandorica is created by Amy's mind, does that make her Pandora, is she the one who re-releases hope back into the world?

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My god! Could she be Pandora from Gallifrey!!?

This is what Braxiatel was warning us about. The Gallifrey audio book series is finally coming to it's ending!

 

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Could Amy be prisoner zero?!!! Tune in tomorrow to find out!!  :lol:

The more i think about it, there's been a lot about perception filters in this series, the tardis has always had one, but in this series, the vampires of venice used them, then the lodger, I think there was even mention of them in the first episode! With Prisoner Zero!
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Could Amy be prisoner zero?!!! Tune in tomorrow to find out!!  :lol:

The more i think about it, there's been a lot about perception filters in this series, the tardis has always had one, but in this series, the vampires of venice used them, then the lodger, I think there was even mention of them in the first episode! With Prisoner Zero!
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I actually have hated the overusage of that thing. It's like ever sense it was invented in the end of the third serial, there just hasn't been enough places to put it in.

 

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nice little duce ex machina to end the series on just the small matter of who was controlling the tardis when it blew up
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River Sung!



P.S. I love a thread full of spoilers!  :lol:
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nice little duce ex machina to end the series on just the small matter of who was controlling the tardis when it blew up

They did at least make a nod in the direction of (the Doctor) still not knowing why that happened. Hopefully it'll get covered in the next series / Christmas episode.

 

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Wow that was a really good end of season finale, Doctor and Rory scenes were funny as hell, i prefer him as a companion to amy the banter between him and the doc when amy isnt there is brillant.

I am hoping that the "silence" will be an ongoing thing through out the Steven Moffat reign of DW, like the shadow war from series 1-4 of B5, different stories but all linked by overall arc covering 4 series. That kind of thing!
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OK, I enjoyed it.  I like this Doctor and Amy immensely.  HOWEVER:

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There seems to be a causality paradox going on in this episode.  E.g. what started the loop of the Doctor escaping and then flitting backwards in time to tell Rory how to help him escape?

This is why time travel in sci-fi generally drives me crazy - and ordinarily Doctor Who is one of the few shows for which I can totally suspend my mind from reality, but that was a bit much.
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duce ex machina

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

 
Leaving something unresolved for a future episode is definitely NOT deus ex machina. Given that Moffat has stated in Confidential that he knows the whole story of River Song and exactly what she is to the Doctor I find it very hard to believe that he'd miss as major a detail as you are mentioning.
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Well, this was certainly the most entertaining series finale of New Who. Props for not including any of the RTD-style "explain cliffhangers away by having the Doc spout goblets of technobabble rapidly".
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"The one thing you need at a wedding, something old, something new, something borrowed and something blue" and then the Tardis appears!
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