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Offline Dilmah G

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I quite like the motto. If I was an FDSR soldier, I'd scream that in latin before I was about to cark it. :P

  

Offline General Battuta

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Hardly. Don't confuse the statements of one man on one topic with some sort of general philosophy either of the (strongly pro-science) UEF or the campaign itself.

The fact that mysterious things happen does not mean they cannot be explained by science. The stars used to be sky gods before they were stars.
The way the quote was framed and the part of the story it featured in made it seem like (a) the guy being quoted was of great intellectual authority in the UEF and (b) the opinion he delivered was some sort of central revelation in the story. If what he said is not entirely accurate than I think that passage should have been presented in a different way.

Mandho's speech was about the need for spirituality and reason to coexist. Not sure what's anti-science about that?

It's the same view espoused by most scientists today. Science tackles empirically testable and falsifiable questions (how was the universe created, how did life arise and evolve, so on). The rest is left up to human imagination and spirituality, since it is not empirically grounded or testable (why are we here, what is the purpose of life, etcetera).
« Last Edit: June 17, 2010, 01:14:52 am by General Battuta »

 

Offline -Norbert-

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"Deos fortioribus adesse" or "the gods favor the strong". Pretty much sums up what the FDSR is all about.
So does that mean that the people on Earth reverted to a polytheistic religion?

And a "few" other things I'd like to know (I know. I'm a backstory junky :P)
How's the general public viewing the Generalissimo? Are they happy, unknowing (or willing?) slaves or are they unhappy, but suppressed by the military power of the few, but well armed loyalists.
Is the situation the same throughout the system or is Earth his powerbase with the other planets and moons rioting from time to time?
What planets and moons are inhabitet beside Earth?
Roughly how big is their fleet?
What kind of military doctrines do your factions use? Ie. do they focus on capships with lots of weapons and few fighters or are they more carrier-based with capships only giving fire support, do they favour blob turrets, beams or longrange torpedoes on their capships ect....
Did the FDSR just fortify Gamma Draconis or did they try to go further?
How do the Vasudans think about this conflict? Are they giving the terran part of the GTVA any help? (Considering that the FDSR already seized Gamma Draconis, I suspect they are in the fight at least partially).
Does the General really think he does what is best for Humanity or is that just a convenient lie to keep himself in power?

 

Offline Dilmah G

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Norbert, leave some for the campaign buddy. :P

 

Offline General Battuta

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I'm excited about the modpack.

 

Offline Commander Zane

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Fix'd. :P

 
Is Generalissimo his actual title or is that just some slang?
17:37:02   Quanto: I want to have sexual intercourse with every space elf in existence
17:37:11   SpardaSon21: even the males?
17:37:22   Quanto: its not gay if its an elf

[21:51] <@Droid803> I now realize
[21:51] <@Droid803> this will be SLIIIIIGHTLY awkward
[21:51] <@Droid803> as this rich psychic girl will now be tsundere for a loli.
[21:51] <@Droid803> OH WELLL.

See what you're missing in #WoD and #Fsquest?

[07:57:32] <Caiaphas> inspired by HerraTohtori i built a supermaneuverable plane in ksp
[07:57:43] <Caiaphas> i just killed my pilots with a high-g maneuver
[07:58:19] <Caiaphas> apparently people can't take 20 gees for 5 continuous seconds
[08:00:11] <Caiaphas> the plane however performed admirably, and only crashed because it no longer had any guidance systems

 

Offline Woolie Wool

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That's his title.
16:46   Quanto   ****, a mosquito somehow managed to bite the side of my palm
16:46   Quanto   it itches like hell
16:46   Woolie   !8ball does Quanto have malaria
16:46   BotenAnna   Woolie: The outlook is good.
16:47   Quanto   D:

"did they use anesthetic when they removed your sense of humor or did you have to weep and struggle like a tiny baby"
--General Battuta

 
People actually take a dictator with that title seriously, and not as some sort of overcompensation on his part, either for an inferiority complex, small penis, or both?
17:37:02   Quanto: I want to have sexual intercourse with every space elf in existence
17:37:11   SpardaSon21: even the males?
17:37:22   Quanto: its not gay if its an elf

[21:51] <@Droid803> I now realize
[21:51] <@Droid803> this will be SLIIIIIGHTLY awkward
[21:51] <@Droid803> as this rich psychic girl will now be tsundere for a loli.
[21:51] <@Droid803> OH WELLL.

See what you're missing in #WoD and #Fsquest?

[07:57:32] <Caiaphas> inspired by HerraTohtori i built a supermaneuverable plane in ksp
[07:57:43] <Caiaphas> i just killed my pilots with a high-g maneuver
[07:58:19] <Caiaphas> apparently people can't take 20 gees for 5 continuous seconds
[08:00:11] <Caiaphas> the plane however performed admirably, and only crashed because it no longer had any guidance systems

 

Offline Woolie Wool

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So does that mean that the people on Earth reverted to a polytheistic religion?
No, it's a quote from Tacitus, a famous Roman orator, and chosen because (a) it represents FDSR doctrine of martial supremacy, and (b) it's in Latin and Latin sounds profound. It mentions multiple gods because it comes from ancient Rome, not because the FDSR supports polytheistic religion.

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How's the general public viewing the Generalissimo? Are they happy, unknowing (or willing?) slaves or are they unhappy, but suppressed by the military power of the few, but well armed loyalists.
Most of them believe him unquestioningly. His cult of personality is so pervasive that the people have been essentially brainwashed.
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Is the situation the same throughout the system or is Earth his powerbase with the other planets and moons rioting from time to time?
The FDSR has total control over Sol.
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What planets and moons are inhabitet beside Earth?
Land-based dome colonies exist out the moons of Jupiter, colonies further than that are mostly space stations.
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Roughly how big is their fleet?
From species.tbl: "Entire Solar armed forces, estimated at 3 dreadnoughts, 33 destroyers, and over 1000 smaller warships and 4 billion personnel."
This would be around two thirds the size of the GTVA's navy.
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What kind of military doctrines do your factions use? Ie. do they focus on capships with lots of weapons and few fighters or are they more carrier-based with capships only giving fire support, do they favour blob turrets, beams or longrange torpedoes on their capships ect....
Their technology is similar to the GTVA's, but they use long-ranged plasma cannons instead of flak guns.
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Did the FDSR just fortify Gamma Draconis or did they try to go further?
Delta Serpentis. Gamma Draconis is on the other side of known space and is unreachable due to the events of FS2. They intend to secure a few systems to create a buffer zone around Sol but were unsuccessful.
[qupte]How do the Vasudans think about this conflict? Are they giving the terran part of the GTVA any help? (Considering that the FDSR already seized Gamma Draconis, I suspect they are in the fight at least partially).[/quote]
The Vasudans are involved, they see it as both a treaty obligation due to their alliance with the Terrans and a humanitarian mission due to the nature of the FDSR. They've even sent four huge assault carriers specifically to participate in a land invasion of Earth when the GTVA finally gets there.
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Does the General really think he does what is best for Humanity or is that just a convenient lie to keep himself in power?
He believes that the GTVA are unfit to defend the human race and the FDSR is the last hope for the survival of Terran civilization.

People actually take a dictator with that title seriously, and not as some sort of overcompensation on his part, either for an inferiority complex, small penis, or both?

Sure they do. The North Koreans venerate Dear Leader and his dead father the Eternal President.
« Last Edit: June 17, 2010, 05:04:19 pm by Woolie Wool »
16:46   Quanto   ****, a mosquito somehow managed to bite the side of my palm
16:46   Quanto   it itches like hell
16:46   Woolie   !8ball does Quanto have malaria
16:46   BotenAnna   Woolie: The outlook is good.
16:47   Quanto   D:

"did they use anesthetic when they removed your sense of humor or did you have to weep and struggle like a tiny baby"
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Offline -Norbert-

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Thanks for all the answers. This makes the situation a lot clearer :nod:

 

Offline Colonol Dekker

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Generalissimo = Kane?
Campaigns I've added my distinctiveness to-
- Blue Planet: Battle Captains
-Battle of Neptune
-Between the Ashes 2
-Blue planet: Age of Aquarius
-FOTG?
-Inferno R1
-Ribos: The aftermath / -Retreat from Deneb
-Sol: A History
-TBP EACW teaser
-Earth Brakiri war
-TBP Fortune Hunters (I think?)
-TBP Relic
-Trancsend (Possibly?)
-Uncharted Territory
-Vassagos Dirge
-War Machine
(Others lost to the mists of time and no discernible audit trail)

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Offline starlord

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Very interesting. Also... dreadnaughts? What class?

Also, woolie, what becomes of the 158th banshee MOD?

 

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Generalissimo = Kane?
Na, the FDSR's motto would be quite different if that was so.  I wish I knew what "peace through power" was in Latin.
17:37:02   Quanto: I want to have sexual intercourse with every space elf in existence
17:37:11   SpardaSon21: even the males?
17:37:22   Quanto: its not gay if its an elf

[21:51] <@Droid803> I now realize
[21:51] <@Droid803> this will be SLIIIIIGHTLY awkward
[21:51] <@Droid803> as this rich psychic girl will now be tsundere for a loli.
[21:51] <@Droid803> OH WELLL.

See what you're missing in #WoD and #Fsquest?

[07:57:32] <Caiaphas> inspired by HerraTohtori i built a supermaneuverable plane in ksp
[07:57:43] <Caiaphas> i just killed my pilots with a high-g maneuver
[07:58:19] <Caiaphas> apparently people can't take 20 gees for 5 continuous seconds
[08:00:11] <Caiaphas> the plane however performed admirably, and only crashed because it no longer had any guidance systems

 

Offline ShadowGorrath

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Generalissimo = Kane?
Na, the FDSR's motto would be quite different if that was so.  I wish I knew what "peace through power" was in Latin.

"Pacis Per Vox"

Or so the online translator says :p

 

Offline General Battuta

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Peace through voice?  :wtf:

 

Offline Snail

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Brian Blessed could do that.

 

Offline Woolie Wool

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Hardly. Don't confuse the statements of one man on one topic with some sort of general philosophy either of the (strongly pro-science) UEF or the campaign itself.

The fact that mysterious things happen does not mean they cannot be explained by science. The stars used to be sky gods before they were stars.
The way the quote was framed and the part of the story it featured in made it seem like (a) the guy being quoted was of great intellectual authority in the UEF and (b) the opinion he delivered was some sort of central revelation in the story. If what he said is not entirely accurate than I think that passage should have been presented in a different way.

Mandho's speech was about the need for spirituality and reason to coexist. Not sure what's anti-science about that?

It's the same view espoused by most scientists today. Science tackles empirically testable and falsifiable questions (how was the universe created, how did life arise and evolve, so on). The rest is left up to human imagination and spirituality, since it is not empirically grounded or testable (why are we here, what is the purpose of life, etcetera).

I think a lot of scientists would simply answer that question with "there is no why". It just happened. Any "meaning" we put in our lives is our own.
16:46   Quanto   ****, a mosquito somehow managed to bite the side of my palm
16:46   Quanto   it itches like hell
16:46   Woolie   !8ball does Quanto have malaria
16:46   BotenAnna   Woolie: The outlook is good.
16:47   Quanto   D:

"did they use anesthetic when they removed your sense of humor or did you have to weep and struggle like a tiny baby"
--General Battuta

 

Offline General Battuta

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Hardly. Don't confuse the statements of one man on one topic with some sort of general philosophy either of the (strongly pro-science) UEF or the campaign itself.

The fact that mysterious things happen does not mean they cannot be explained by science. The stars used to be sky gods before they were stars.
The way the quote was framed and the part of the story it featured in made it seem like (a) the guy being quoted was of great intellectual authority in the UEF and (b) the opinion he delivered was some sort of central revelation in the story. If what he said is not entirely accurate than I think that passage should have been presented in a different way.

Mandho's speech was about the need for spirituality and reason to coexist. Not sure what's anti-science about that?

It's the same view espoused by most scientists today. Science tackles empirically testable and falsifiable questions (how was the universe created, how did life arise and evolve, so on). The rest is left up to human imagination and spirituality, since it is not empirically grounded or testable (why are we here, what is the purpose of life, etcetera).

I think a lot of scientists would simply answer that question with "there is no why". It just happened. Any "meaning" we put in our lives is our own.

And that's exactly what Mandho would say too, I think. (It's certainly my opinion.) Spiritual exploration and development are a personal challenge, but necessary - we all have to live for something.