Author Topic: BP: War in Heaven discussion (Read 984816 times)

General Battuta · **Reply #3220 on:** February 28, 2012, 07:14:48 pm

Quote from: Blackace on February 28, 2012, 06:51:38 pm

Hey! i got this error when trying to start bp2...

"bp2-wep.tbm(line 979:Error: Missing required token: [+Count:]. Found [+Type: Ring]
in weapon: ShockwaveEffect"

fs2open.log

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========================================================================== DEBUG SPEW: No debug_filter.cfg found, so only general, error, and warning categories can be shown and no debug_filter.cfg info will be saved. ========================================================================== FreeSpace version: 3.6.12 Passed cmdline options: -spec_exp 8.2 -spec_static 3.5 -spec_point 8.6 -spec_tube 1.0 -ambient_factor 70 -env -mipmap -missile_lighting -glow -nomotiondebris -spec -normal -orbradar -targetinfo -3dwarp -ship_choice_3d -weapon_choice_3d -warp_flash -snd_preload -mod blueplanet2,blueplanet,mediavps_3612 Building file index... Found root pack 'D:\Spiele\FreeSpace2\blueplanet2\bp2-adv-visuals.vp' with a checksum of 0x241c257f Found root pack 'D:\Spiele\FreeSpace2\blueplanet2\bp2-audio1.vp' with a checksum of 0x51171798 Found root pack 'D:\Spiele\FreeSpace2\blueplanet2\bp2-core.vp' with a checksum of 0xe386a796 Found root pack 'D:\Spiele\FreeSpace2\blueplanet2\bp2-visuals1.vp' with a checksum of 0xd263c407 Found root pack 'D:\Spiele\FreeSpace2\blueplanet2\bp2-visuals2.vp' with a checksum of 0xd3552477 Found root pack 'D:\Spiele\FreeSpace2\blueplanet\bp-adv-visuals.vp' with a checksum of 0xbba0f03c Found root pack 'D:\Spiele\FreeSpace2\blueplanet\bp-audio1.vp' with a checksum of 0xe79b67ce Found root pack 'D:\Spiele\FreeSpace2\blueplanet\bp-audio2.vp' with a checksum of 0xb50d55b7 Found root pack 'D:\Spiele\FreeSpace2\blueplanet\bp-core.vp' with a checksum of 0x6b804787 Found root pack 'D:\Spiele\FreeSpace2\blueplanet\bp-visuals1.vp' with a checksum of 0x316467fa Found root pack 'D:\Spiele\FreeSpace2\blueplanet\bp-visuals2.vp' with a checksum of 0x39fe8221 Found root pack 'D:\Spiele\FreeSpace2\mediavps_3612\MV_Advanced.vp' with a checksum of 0x4b8b0f5a Found root pack 'D:\Spiele\FreeSpace2\mediavps_3612\MV_AnimGlows.vp' with a checksum of 0x6a554026 Found root pack 'D:\Spiele\FreeSpace2\mediavps_3612\MV_Assets.3612.vp' with a checksum of 0x59649c21 Found root pack 'D:\Spiele\FreeSpace2\mediavps_3612\MV_Assets.vp' with a checksum of 0x529cc70f Found root pack 'D:\Spiele\FreeSpace2\mediavps_3612\MV_Effects.3612.vp' with a checksum of 0x9c510aa0 Found root pack 'D:\Spiele\FreeSpace2\mediavps_3612\MV_Effects.vp' with a checksum of 0xb9a9a485 Found root pack 'D:\Spiele\FreeSpace2\mediavps_3612\MV_Music.vp' with a checksum of 0xb3e21469 Found root pack 'D:\Spiele\FreeSpace2\mediavps_3612\MV_RadarIcons.vp' with a checksum of 0x31dd7781 Found root pack 'D:\Spiele\FreeSpace2\mediavps_3612\MV_Root.3612.vp' with a checksum of 0x7c9d7e74 Found root pack 'D:\Spiele\FreeSpace2\mediavps_3612\MV_Root.vp' with a checksum of 0x6ffd5c78 Found root pack 'D:\Spiele\FreeSpace2\root_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0xe9c03ec4 Found root pack 'D:\Spiele\FreeSpace2\smarty_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0x0098ee1f Found root pack 'D:\Spiele\FreeSpace2\sparky_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0x749032a2 Found root pack 'D:\Spiele\FreeSpace2\sparky_hi_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0x566add58 Found root pack 'D:\Spiele\FreeSpace2\stu_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0xf2983309 Found root pack 'D:\Spiele\FreeSpace2\tango1_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0xd4e3ad49 Found root pack 'D:\Spiele\FreeSpace2\tango2_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0x799e46a1 Found root pack 'D:\Spiele\FreeSpace2\tango3_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0x825f5ee0 Found root pack 'D:\Spiele\FreeSpace2\warble_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0xa7037300 Searching root 'D:\Spiele\FreeSpace2\blueplanet2\' ... 1 files Searching root pack 'D:\Spiele\FreeSpace2\blueplanet2\bp2-adv-visuals.vp' ... 31 files Searching root pack 'D:\Spiele\FreeSpace2\blueplanet2\bp2-audio1.vp' ... 156 files Searching root pack 'D:\Spiele\FreeSpace2\blueplanet2\bp2-core.vp' ... 72 files Searching root pack 'D:\Spiele\FreeSpace2\blueplanet2\bp2-visuals1.vp' ... 542 files Searching root pack 'D:\Spiele\FreeSpace2\blueplanet2\bp2-visuals2.vp' ... 2012 files Searching root 'D:\Spiele\FreeSpace2\blueplanet\' ... 68 files Searching root pack 'D:\Spiele\FreeSpace2\blueplanet\bp-adv-visuals.vp' ... 358 files Searching root pack 'D:\Spiele\FreeSpace2\blueplanet\bp-audio1.vp' ... 41 files Searching root pack 'D:\Spiele\FreeSpace2\blueplanet\bp-audio2.vp' ... 683 files Searching root pack 'D:\Spiele\FreeSpace2\blueplanet\bp-core.vp' ... 53 files Searching root pack 'D:\Spiele\FreeSpace2\blueplanet\bp-visuals1.vp' ... 337 files Searching root pack 'D:\Spiele\FreeSpace2\blueplanet\bp-visuals2.vp' ... 1488 files Searching root 'D:\Spiele\FreeSpace2\mediavps_3612\' ... 1 files Searching root pack 'D:\Spiele\FreeSpace2\mediavps_3612\MV_Advanced.vp' ... 1283 files Searching root pack 'D:\Spiele\FreeSpace2\mediavps_3612\MV_AnimGlows.vp' ... 1641 files Searching root pack 'D:\Spiele\FreeSpace2\mediavps_3612\MV_Assets.3612.vp' ... 228 files Searching root pack 'D:\Spiele\FreeSpace2\mediavps_3612\MV_Assets.vp' ... 1905 files Searching root pack 'D:\Spiele\FreeSpace2\mediavps_3612\MV_Effects.3612.vp' ... 2 files Searching root pack 'D:\Spiele\FreeSpace2\mediavps_3612\MV_Effects.vp' ... 1892 files Searching root pack 'D:\Spiele\FreeSpace2\mediavps_3612\MV_Music.vp' ... 32 files Searching root pack 'D:\Spiele\FreeSpace2\mediavps_3612\MV_RadarIcons.vp' ... 24 files Searching root pack 'D:\Spiele\FreeSpace2\mediavps_3612\MV_Root.3612.vp' ... 13 files Searching root pack 'D:\Spiele\FreeSpace2\mediavps_3612\MV_Root.vp' ... 358 files Searching root 'D:\Spiele\FreeSpace2\' ... 47 files Searching root pack 'D:\Spiele\FreeSpace2\root_fs2.vp' ... 157 files Searching root pack 'D:\Spiele\FreeSpace2\smarty_fs2.vp' ... 10 files Searching root pack 'D:\Spiele\FreeSpace2\sparky_fs2.vp' ... 3027 files Searching root pack 'D:\Spiele\FreeSpace2\sparky_hi_fs2.vp' ... 1337 files Searching root pack 'D:\Spiele\FreeSpace2\stu_fs2.vp' ... 1777 files Searching root pack 'D:\Spiele\FreeSpace2\tango1_fs2.vp' ... 32 files Searching root pack 'D:\Spiele\FreeSpace2\tango2_fs2.vp' ... 15 files Searching root pack 'D:\Spiele\FreeSpace2\tango3_fs2.vp' ... 10 files Searching root pack 'D:\Spiele\FreeSpace2\warble_fs2.vp' ... 52 files Searching root 'f:\' ... 0 files Found 35 roots and 19685 files. Setting language to English TBM => Starting parse of 'mv_core-lcl.tbm' ... Initializing OpenAL... Using 'Generic Software' as OpenAL sound device... OpenAL Vendor : Creative Labs Inc. OpenAL Renderer : Software OpenAL Version : 1.1 ... OpenAL successfully initialized! Initializing OpenGL graphics device at 1920x1080 with 32-bit color... Initializing WGL... Requested WGL Video values = R: 8, G: 8, B: 8, depth: 32, double-buffer: 1 Actual WGL Video values = R: 8, G: 8, B: 8, depth: 32, double-buffer: 1 OpenGL Vendor : NVIDIA Corporation OpenGL Renderer : GeForce 8800 GT/PCI/SSE2 OpenGL Version : 3.3.0 Using extension "GL_EXT_fog_coord". Using extension "GL_ARB_multitexture". Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_env_add". Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_compression". Using extension "GL_EXT_texture_compression_s3tc". Using extension "GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic". Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_env_combine". Using extension "GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array". Using extension "GL_EXT_draw_range_elements". Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_mirrored_repeat". Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_non_power_of_two". Using extension "GL_ARB_vertex_buffer_object". Using extension "GL_ARB_pixel_buffer_object". Using extension "GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap". Using extension "GL_EXT_framebuffer_object". Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_rectangle". Using extension "GL_EXT_bgra". Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_cube_map". Using extension "GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias". Using extension "GL_ARB_point_sprite". Using extension "GL_ARB_shading_language_100". Using extension "GL_ARB_shader_objects". Using extension "GL_ARB_vertex_shader". Using extension "GL_ARB_fragment_shader". Using extension "GL_NV_vertex_program3". Found special extension function "wglSwapIntervalEXT". Initializing Shaders Manager... Loading and compiling main shaders... Compiling main shader -> main-v.sdr (null-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (null-f.sdr) ... Compiling main shader -> main-v.sdr (b-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (b-f.sdr) ... Compiling main shader -> main-v.sdr (b-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (bg-f.sdr) ... Compiling main shader -> main-v.sdr (l-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lb-f.sdr) ... Compiling main shader -> main-v.sdr (l-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lbg-f.sdr) ... Compiling main shader -> main-v.sdr (l-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lbgs-f.sdr) ... Compiling main shader -> main-v.sdr (l-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lbs-f.sdr) ... Compiling main shader -> main-v.sdr (le-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lbgse-f.sdr) ... Compiling main shader -> main-v.sdr (le-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lbse-f.sdr) ... Compiling main shader -> main-v.sdr (ln-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lbgn-f.sdr) ... Compiling main shader -> main-v.sdr (ln-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lbgsn-f.sdr) ... Compiling main shader -> main-v.sdr (ln-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lbn-f.sdr) ... Compiling main shader -> main-v.sdr (ln-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lbsn-f.sdr) ... Compiling main shader -> main-v.sdr (lne-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lbgsne-f.sdr) ... Compiling main shader -> main-v.sdr (lne-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lbsne-f.sdr) ... Compiling main shader -> main-v.sdr (lf-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lfb-f.sdr) ... Compiling main shader -> main-v.sdr (lf-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lfbg-f.sdr) ... Compiling main shader -> main-v.sdr (lf-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lfbgs-f.sdr) ... Compiling main shader -> main-v.sdr (lf-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lfbs-f.sdr) ... Compiling main shader -> main-v.sdr (lfe-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lfbgse-f.sdr) ... Compiling main shader -> main-v.sdr (lfe-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lfbse-f.sdr) ... Compiling main shader -> main-v.sdr (lfn-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lfbgn-f.sdr) ... Compiling main shader -> main-v.sdr (lfn-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lfbgsn-f.sdr) ... Compiling main shader -> main-v.sdr (lfn-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lfbn-f.sdr) ... Compiling main shader -> main-v.sdr (lfn-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lfbsn-f.sdr) ... Compiling main shader -> main-v.sdr (lfne-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lfbgsne-f.sdr) ... Compiling main shader -> main-v.sdr (lfne-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lfbsne-f.sdr) ... Compiling main shader -> main-v.sdr (l-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (null-f.sdr) ... Compiling main shader -> main-v.sdr (l-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lg-f.sdr) ... Compiling main shader -> main-v.sdr (l-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lgs-f.sdr) ... Compiling main shader -> main-v.sdr (l-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (ls-f.sdr) ... Compiling main shader -> main-v.sdr (le-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lgse-f.sdr) ... Compiling main shader -> main-v.sdr (le-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lse-f.sdr) ... Compiling main shader -> main-v.sdr (ln-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lgn-f.sdr) ... Compiling main shader -> main-v.sdr (ln-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lgsn-f.sdr) ... Compiling main shader -> main-v.sdr (ln-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (ln-f.sdr) ... Compiling main shader -> main-v.sdr (ln-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lsn-f.sdr) ... Compiling main shader -> main-v.sdr (lne-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lgsne-f.sdr) ... Compiling main shader -> main-v.sdr (lne-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lsne-f.sdr) ... Shaders Manager initialized. Max texture units: 4 (32) Max elements vertices: 1048576 Max elements indices: 1048576 Max texture size: 8192x8192 Can use compressed textures: YES Texture compression available: YES Using trilinear texture filter. Using GLSL for model rendering. Shader Version: 3.30 NVIDIA via Cg compiler ... OpenGL init is complete! Size of bitmap info = 760 KB Size of bitmap extra info = 52 bytes ANI cursorweb with size 24x24 (25.0% wasted) GRAPHICS: Initializing default colors... SCRIPTING: Beginning initialization sequence... SCRIPTING: Beginning Lua initialization... LUA: Opening LUA state... LUA: Initializing base Lua libraries... LUA: Beginning ADE initialization ADE: Initializing enumeration constants... ADE: Assigning Lua session... SCRIPTING: Beginning main hook parse sequence.... Wokka! Error opening file (scripting.tbl)! TABLES: Unable to parse 'scripting.tbl'! Error code = 5. TBM => Starting parse of 'mv_flak-sct.tbm' ... TBM => Starting parse of 'mv_dbrs-sct.tbm' ... TBM => Starting parse of 'mv_exp-sct.tbm' ... TBM => Starting parse of 'bp2-trigger-sct.tbm' ... TBM => Starting parse of 'bp2-tcard-sct.tbm' ... TBM => Starting parse of 'bp2-stupid-sct.tbm' ... TBM => Starting parse of 'bp2-debrisgrav-sct.tbm' ... TBM => Starting parse of 'bp2-csc-sct.tbm' ... TBM => Starting parse of 'bp2-betty-sct.tbm' ... SCRIPTING: Inititialization complete. SCRIPTING: Splash screen overrides checked SCRIPTING: Splash hook has been run SCRIPTING: Splash screen conditional hook has been run Using high memory settings... Wokka! Error opening file (interface.tbl)! WMCGUI: Unable to parse 'interface.tbl'! Error code = 5. TBM => Starting parse of 'mv_effects-sdf.tbm' ... TBM => Starting parse of 'bp-sdf.tbm' ... ANI 2_radar1 with size 209x170 (33.6% wasted) Windows reported 16 joysticks, we found 0 Current soundtrack set to -1 in event_music_reset_choices TBM => Starting parse of 'mv_music-mus.tbm' ... TBM => Starting parse of 'bp-mus.tbm' ... TBM => Starting parse of 'bp2-mus.tbm' ... TBM => Starting parse of 'mv_effects-mfl.tbm' ... TBM => Starting parse of 'bp-mfl.tbm' ... TBM => Starting parse of 'bp2-mfl.tbm' ... Wokka! Error opening file (armor.tbl)! TABLES: Unable to parse 'armor.tbl'! Error code = 5. TBM => Starting parse of 'mv_effects-amr.tbm' ... TBM => Starting parse of 'bp2-amr.tbm' ... TBM => Starting parse of 'mv_effects-wxp.tbm' ... TBM => Starting parse of 'bp-wxp.tbm' ... BMPMAN: Found EFF (exp20.eff) with 75 frames at 20 fps. BMPMAN: Found EFF (ExpMissileHit1.eff) with 92 frames at 20 fps. BMPMAN: Found EFF (exp04.eff) with 49 frames at 22 fps. BMPMAN: Found EFF (exp05.eff) with 93 frames at 20 fps. BMPMAN: Found EFF (exp06.eff) with 92 frames at 22 fps. BMPMAN: Found EFF (capflash.eff) with 40 frames at 10 fps. BMPMAN: Found EFF (Maxim_Impact.eff) with 23 frames at 30 fps. ANI Lamprey_Impact with size 80x80 (37.5% wasted) BMPMAN: Found EFF (explo3.eff) with 48 frames at 22 fps. BMPMAN: Found EFF (HFlakExp.eff) with 48 frames at 22 fps. BMPMAN: Found EFF (exp06b.eff) with 92 frames at 22 fps. BMPMAN: Found EFF (bomb_flare.eff) with 69 frames at 20 fps. TBM => Starting parse of 'mv_core-wep.tbm' ... TBM => Starting parse of 'mv_effects-wep.tbm' ... TBM => Starting parse of 'mv_assets-wep.tbm' ... TBM => Starting parse of 'bp-wep.tbm' ... TBM => Starting parse of 'bp2-wep.tbm' ... bp2-wep.tbm(line 979:Error: Missing required token: [+Count:]. Found [+Type: Ring] in weapon: ShockwaveEffect instead. ERROR: bp2-wep.tbm(line 979: Error: Missing required token: [+Count:]. Found [+Type: Ring] in weapon: ShockwaveEffect instead. File: parselo.cpp Line: 262 Int3(): From c:\temp\fs2_final_export\code\globalincs\windebug.cpp at line 1155

I haven't been keeping up with the whole update mess but I believe you have to use 3.6.14 RC3 to play BP now.

SypheDMar · **Reply #3221 on:** February 28, 2012, 09:06:31 pm

RC5 works provided that you ignore the warnings. They should be harmless either way. (Outdated doesn't mean deprecated, or at least I hope not.)

CT27 · **Reply #3222 on:** February 29, 2012, 03:35:42 am

Quote from: QuakeIV on February 28, 2012, 12:54:54 am

Expect immediate deployment of the serkret project

"Serkret" project?

Byrne bribes Serkr Team to defect...

-Norbert- · **Reply #3223 on:** February 29, 2012, 05:17:32 am

Quote from: MatthTheGeek on February 28, 2012, 04:51:44 pm

Just the overall feeling I get from the little we know. We do know for sure the Eris was engaged with Serkr, and that the Toutatis was damaged enough that they put it in drydock, mounting those awesome forward mass drivers in the process.

Mounting awsome forward mass drivers?

crizza · **Reply #3224 on:** February 29, 2012, 05:27:57 am

Quote from: -Norbert- on February 29, 2012, 05:17:32 am

Quote from: MatthTheGeek on February 28, 2012, 04:51:44 pm
Just the overall feeling I get from the little we know. We do know for sure the Eris was engaged with Serkr, and that the Toutatis was damaged enough that they put it in drydock, mounting those awesome forward mass drivers in the process.
Mounting awsome forward mass drivers?

Dunno, but if the Toutatis gets forward mass drivers...and keeps it's missile spitting ability...then you get a ship that can slug it out with everything...are we talking about an uber-Solaris?^^

MatthTheGeek · **Reply #3225 on:** February 29, 2012, 05:28:20 am

Someone hasn't followed latest news.

From ModDB. You can see the Nara-grade mass drivers around the nose of the thing, although I've been shown much better preview screenshots than that on IRC. I've already adapted them to HWBP, btw.

crizza · **Reply #3226 on:** February 29, 2012, 05:31:23 am

Great, now the Toutatis can snipe at every Tev ship, destroying their beams and close in for missile spawn of death...
Why do I start hearing the "Godlike" sound of UT?^^

-Norbert- · **Reply #3227 on:** February 29, 2012, 06:07:16 am

I didn't expect that there would be news about BP on ModDB, that isn't also posted on HLP.

And it's good to know that you saw better screens (any chance someone can link them in here too please?), because the red trails on that shot, look more like missile trails to me than those of massdriver or gauss shots. Don't misunderstand me, I do believe you, but I too want to see those screenshots if possible.

crizza · **Reply #3228 on:** February 29, 2012, 06:21:31 am

These should be no gaus weapon trails, since they're not straight.

MatthTheGeek · **Reply #3229 on:** February 29, 2012, 06:26:09 am

Probably because they ARE missile trails, silly. Mass drivers are here. (not lvlshotting because I don't intend to spam the thread with high-res HWBP WIP pics everywhere)

crizza · **Reply #3230 on:** February 29, 2012, 06:58:06 am

So, do they shoot shells the size of an Aeolus?^^

MatthTheGeek · **Reply #3231 on:** February 29, 2012, 07:00:19 am

They're Narayana guns. Same size.

Deadly in a Shadow · **Reply #3232 on:** February 29, 2012, 10:05:37 am

When the hell did the UEF had the time to staple Nara-gunz on them?

Anyway, awesomeness ensues.

MatthTheGeek · **Reply #3233 on:** February 29, 2012, 10:54:23 am

Quote from: MatthTheGeek on February 28, 2012, 04:51:44 pm

and that the Toutatis was damaged enough that they put it in drydock, mounting those awesome forward mass drivers in the process.

I shouldn't have to quote myself. And those are old news really.

Qent · **Reply #3234 on:** February 29, 2012, 11:24:31 am

I did not know this. It is awesome.

CT27 · **Reply #3235 on:** February 29, 2012, 01:45:39 pm

Thanks guys for helping to clear up my misuse of BP terminology.

I'm guessing now that WIH 2 will only take place shortly thereafter WIH? Another question on that note, does anyone know how long WIH took (mission 1 had a date of 9-27-86 but I couldn't find an official date in one of the last missions)?

As a GTVA supporter, I'm worried about this new weapon the UEF has on the Solaris

, but it does look cool from a technical standpoint.

QuakeIV · **Reply #3236 on:** February 29, 2012, 02:11:02 pm

They are probably going to have to deal with a lot of technical problems there. Feeding it ammo etc is going to be a ***** since the ship wasn't designed to use ammo that big, and there would be no pre-existing systems to feed ammo to those guns. Unless they planned on attaching stuff like that later in which case the UEF is awesomer than I thought.

Serkr still only needs to get within range, in which case those wont be good for ****, so it isn't that worrying to me. They just jump into a good attack position and lots of toasted buntu.

General Battuta · **Reply #3237 on:** February 29, 2012, 02:24:13 pm

The Solaris class has actually had capacity for big guns mounted there for a long time iirc, they were just never manufactured or fitted (I could be wrong but I believe that's been established as long as the model's been around)

MatthTheGeek · **Reply #3238 on:** February 29, 2012, 02:37:48 pm

Remember the Solaris design wasn't very popular, seen as a waste of resources in a system with already 5 times the amount of Karunas you'd need to police it. I wouldn't be surprised if they cut a few of the planned weaponry from the original design, while still retaining the hardpoints originally designed here. That way, it's nearly plug-and-play installation afterwards.

Mars · **Reply #3239 on:** February 29, 2012, 03:57:10 pm

Wasn't it already tactically superior to the Raynor enough? XD

EDIT:

That came off weird, but it is a serious question, followed by amusement at the apparent overkill.

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