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It's a name, translation isn't really necessary.

Not to mention that it's actually a French name.

EDIT:  If you really want a translation, "impérieuse" means "imperious" in English.  Not much of a linguistic jump.

 

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you do know that french had very present and lasting roots in english history, right?

Take a look at the royal armoury seal (dieu es mon droit)!

 

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Maybe. But that sounded like a response to an attempt to translate "Imperieuse" from German into English.

 

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Specifically, "Impérieuse" is the feminine form of "Imperious".  The masculine form would be "Impérieux".
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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
The Royal Navy has a long tradition of naming their ships after foreign ships that they've captured. A great way of flipping the bird to whatever foreign navy that ship was from the next time you end up fighting them. :p

The Temeraire (Temerity) from AoA follows the same naming convention.

 

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Probably the same for the Labouchère and a few others that I can't remember from the top of my head.
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Ree-gens-berg or rag-gens-berg, probably.
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I always read it "Ree-jens-burg"

 

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Sorted it out with the help of a translator program, able to translate french to german etc.

 

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I know we've seen specific GTVA units (Serkr team, etc.) but is there a possibility we could see another named GTVA rival?  What I mean is, we know about Steele, how about a GTVA ace that has to be worried about?

 

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Okay, this may or may not be a case of Science Marching On, but apparently we have discovered a method for relatively (emphasis on "relatively") easily producing lots of antimatter on a relatively practical level: http://dsc.discovery.com/news/2008/12/01/antimatter-laser.html

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Blasting a gold target with high-powered lasers creates huge amounts of antimatter, reported scientists from the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory at a conference last week.

A steady supply of the antimatter particles, known as positrons, is a big step towards solving some fundamental mysteries, such as why more matter than antimatter survived the Big Bang at the start of the universe. A supply of antimatter could also be used in creating a new generation of tools for fields as diverse as astrophysics and medicine.

"This is the first substantial source of antimatter using lasers," said Hui Chen of Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory.

Substantial indeed. The California researchers estimate that with every shot of their laser, which fires every 30 minutes, they create about 10 billion positrons, also called anti-electrons. That's several orders of magnitude more than the other two existing sources of positrons: natural radioactive decay and large linear accelerators.

The LLNL scientists created the positrons by shooting the lab's high-powered Titan laser onto a one-millimeter-thick piece of gold. The laser excites the electrons, causing them to "wiggle," as Peter Beiersdorfer, a LLNL physicist on the project explains.

Given FS2-era tech (let alone BP-era tech), wouldn't that make creating large stores of antimatter/antimatter warheads practical without spending 50 years not having to use many of the ones you build?

Again, maybe I'm totally misunderstanding the scale/practicality of this, but perhaps this method would make building Helios torpedoes en masse cost-effective?
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I know we've seen specific GTVA units (Serkr team, etc.) but is there a possibility we could see another named GTVA rival?  What I mean is, we know about Steele, how about a GTVA ace that has to be worried about?
The thing is, and it is specifically said several times in WiH, the Tevs don't let their aces in the front line very long. They are pulled back and used to train the next generation of pilots, while the UEF keep their aces in combat, where they rank unbelievable kill counts before dying and taking their skill in the grave.

The UEF wages war like a sprint, the GTVA wages war like a marathon. We've all seen which one works the best.

Given FS2-era tech (let alone BP-era tech), wouldn't that make creating large stores of antimatter/antimatter warheads practical without spending 50 years not having to use many of the ones you build?
That's exactly what the UEF has been doing. They have antimatter farms in Mercury that use the abundant solar power to generate antimatter. As far as I know, those antimatter farms are pre-isolation. The UEF has huge AM stockpiles. How do you think they can waste dozens if not hundreds of Apocalypses per battle, even after the Blitz and the logistical collapse that followed ? Clearly, whatever they lack of, it is not AM.
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But does it blend?
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Yes, but the resultant gamma emissions are...troublesome.
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That's exactly what the UEF has been doing. They have antimatter farms in Mercury that use the abundant solar power to generate antimatter. As far as I know, those antimatter farms are pre-isolation. The UEF has huge AM stockpiles. How do you think they can waste dozens if not hundreds of Apocalypses per battle, even after the Blitz and the logistical collapse that followed ? Clearly, whatever they lack of, it is not AM.

Right, but I was referring to the GTVA, not the UEF; the output of an SGreen alone could produce (unless I'm totally misunderstanding the scale here) significant quantities of antimatter at any location; I also seriously doubt there aren't any planets in the GTVA that has the same AM-related properties as Mercury.

And if those UEF facilities were mostly build during the Great War, then the GTVA has had the knowledge, tech, equipment, and experience needed for that for decades. And given how useful and powerful antimatter is...

I wonder if a meson reactor is more powerful (and/or cost-efficient) than an antimatter reactor...
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It's pretty much implied, in the BP lore, that meson tech is much better than antimatter. Re-read the Supernova tech description, it's a meson warhead said to be "More compact than the Helios bomb, and nearly as powerful", and the Helios is antimatter.

If you count the fact that warship-mounted torpedoes need to dedicate much more space for fuel than bomber-launched bombs (that is canon too IIRC), it means the explosive charge of the Supernova is much smaller than that of the Helios, yet is as powerful.

UEF's Apocalypse antimatter torpedoes, on the other hand, do 1/5th or 1/10th of the damage of the Supernova (depending on the torpedo model). I guess you get the point.
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And if those UEF facilities were mostly build during the Great War, then the GTVA has had the knowledge, tech, equipment, and experience needed for that for decades. And given how useful and powerful antimatter is...

Well, of course they have that knowledge. But, crucially, they did not have the concentrated mass of infrastructure that is present in Sol; building, operating and expanding an antimatter farm takes a lot of work, which is easier to get done in Sol. The GTVA has its own farms, of course, but their combined output doesn't really come close to that of the Sol farm.
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Re: BP: War in Heaven discussion
Just finished the campaign again. The ending is just as upsetting as when I first played through it.

I'm going to pretend the Mr. Cuddles ending was the actual ending and leave it at that, and if/when the next release comes out, I will hopefully have been proven correct. It's much less depressing to think of it this way...
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