[Droid803]

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I identify with the Alliance
I've played FS2, seen the horrors of the Second Shivan Incursion. There are necessary sacrifices for the good of your species, especially in the face of an enemy who's motives are unknown, but who's methods involve ****ing killing you all. If the Federation really understood that not fighting each other is how to survive, then they should have just surrendered.

I used a checkpoint at least once in the campaign
Delenda Est. See below.

I called the bluff in M05
By the time the option came up I already killed half the Gefs. By myself. \o/

I thought Darkest Hour was just right
Alpha wing got smashed to bits, but I got out with all the rookies and the Vatican. Pretty straightforward bomber intercept, just don't bother bumrushing caphsips.

I killed Xinny and Zero
I absolutely hated having done it, but I didn't think the campaign would let me continue if I didn't.
I should have experimented...

I found the Simms conversation frustrating
I am not good with people.

I thought the Nyx dogfight was okay
But I'm pretty good at dodging Tornadoes. Countermeasures used in the dogfight: 0

I understood the pointbuy system in Aristeia
I just randomly called in reinforcements and then understood what was going on.

I thought the Vasudan logistics incident was an act of treachery
Right, let's shoot at a corvette that's powered down, weapons cold, without assessing the situation! Did they even consider the fact that maybe the Indus is capturing it or something?

I felt good in One Perfect Moment
Girl on Girl action is Hot.

I thought the assassination was a good move
I did it myself the first time, and broke the mission.

I loved the soundtrack at the end of Pawns
I think. I'm not sure I heard it. CURSE YOU SOUND GLITCH! CURSE YOU!

I thought Delenda Est was too hard
I used the checkpoint system so many times to try different loadouts at disarming those corvettes.
Ended up cheating and still failed.
Ended up cheating even more.

I love Admiral Steele
Maginificent bastard!

[General Battuta]

Spoiler:

Right, let's shoot at a corvette that's powered down, weapons cold, without assessing the situation! Did they even consider the fact that maybe the Indus is capturing it or something?

It might seem dumb but from the Hesperia's perspective there's a lot of ways it makes sense. Hindsight bias is easy to succumb to.

[Vip]

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I identify with the Alliance
Just like Droid said, I've been through the 2nd Shivan Incursion. Seeing a ship that took us 20 years to complete and which was supposed to be invincible wtfpwned by a single Shivan vessel in a matter of minutes, and then witnessing the Shivans supernoving Capella, I can say that the Feds have NO idea what they're up against. Is Admiral Byrne going to play a defensive war against the Shivans, keeping all of his assets in one place waiting for them to be annihilated by some stray juggernaut ? Give me a brake.
Though I must admit that this campaign made me symphatise with the Feds on an emotional level, my rational part is still a GTVA supporter.

I used a checkpoint at least once in the campaign
... and failed miserably, because it didn't work as it was supposed to. Still, a nice idea.

I called the bluff in M05
Probably the best option - it didn't fit Laporte to charge the enemy or take other people as hostages, at least not at this point in the campaign.

I thought Darkest Hour was just right
Managed to complete it on my first run. Lost all rookies, the Vatican and Alpha got hit hard as well, but thanks to this it really felt epic. The station was holding at maybe 4% when the mission ended. Now that is what I call fighting for survival.

I let Xinny and Zero shoot me down
Just like I said before, I couldn't kill my former comrades. Not to mention, that it wouldn't make much sense for a rook like Laporte to kill SOC operatives.

I found the Simms conversation easy
I wasn't exactly sure whether I was doing the right thing, but I trusted the briefing and everything went quite well on my first run, even though I did yell at Simms in the end. Anybody can tell me what's the best outcome here ?

I found the Nyx dogfight too hard
Dammit, those fighters pack helluva punch, all I could do was dodge them until they got shot down. Really nasty. At least the Erinyes are sluggish enough to be outmaneuvered.

I understood the pointbuy system in Aristeia
Wasn't very hard to understand, but I'm not sure how useful this was. It's hard to make a reasonable decision when the situation around you is rather chaotic. In the end, I ordered some bombers and Uhlans, and managed to win this one.  Loved how you could input the code yourself, though.

I thought the Vasudan logistics incident was an act of treachery
Oh come on, so NOW they decide to go with the 'shoot first, ask questions later' method ? 18 months too late, UEF. Even if you are biased, charging in with your guns hot when you don't know the situation is hardly commendable. That captain should get yelled at by some Admiral or two for what he has done.

I felt good in One Perfect Moment
Character development in a space sim ? During a mission ? Are we in a Japanese game already ? Normally, I'm not too fond of such missions, but since it's a story-driven campaign, I didn't really complain. Plus, it was nice to be able to read all this chatter without having to resort to F4. Besides, the girls deserved some rest and proper talk

I was shocked and appalled by the assassination
I knew something like this would happen, but I never saw those 3-4 Pegasus fighters coming ! I wasn't even given a chance to respond. Plus, I was curious what the Elder wanted to say. Ehhh, what the hell happened with the old GTVA ? I understand that 18 years of economic troubles and being stomped by Shivans could somehow affect them, but I know that the GTVA is/was better than such assassinations and deceptions ! Lying to the Vasudans is gonna bite the Terrans in their arses soon enough.

I thought Delenda Est was just right
Well, I did play it on Very Easy (mainly because I forgot to turn on Medium after the previous mission ), and I finished it on my first run with Indus in not such a bad shape and my hull at 94% with ease. Gonna try it on higher difficulties later on, should be much more intense and epic.

I love Admiral Steele
Even though I don't like how he's lying to his allies (but I can understand somehow why he is doing so), I like his strategies far more. He wants to end this war quickly, and isn't afraid of risk or aggressive tactics to do so. That's the spirit ! Show those Feds how wars look like !

[Inglonias]

* Androgeos Exeunt looks at the votes.

Okay, who decided to let Xinny and Zero shoot them down?

Me. I mean, how could I shoot down people who flew with me into the lion's den 18 years ago and who only tried to rescue my good old squadron leader, Captain Al'fadil (sp?). Come on. Besides, you can still go on with the campaign even if you get shot down.

Who are Xinny and Zero?

[Vip]

* Androgeos Exeunt looks at the votes.

Okay, who decided to let Xinny and Zero shoot them down?

Me. I mean, how could I shoot down people who flew with me into the lion's den 18 years ago and who only tried to rescue my good old squadron leader, Captain Al'fadil (sp?). Come on. Besides, you can still go on with the campaign even if you get shot down.

Who are Xinny and Zero?

They, along with Snipes, were your wingmen in Into The Lion's Den in retail campaign.

[carbine7]

Yeah, I shot em down too. I knew they were my old buddies, and actually somewhat competent ones at that, but they shot at me. I shot back 

[Qent]

Spoiler:

I identify with the Alliance
First priority has to be surviving the Shivans. I actually think that Ubuntu is the GTVA's best bet for saving the economy and fielding bigger badder warships. Meh, if Command wanted my opinion they'd promote me to admiral.

I used a checkpoint at least once in the campaign
Or... 20 times? More?

I threatened the hostage in M05
It seemed like it would be the most interesting option. I was totally bluffing though.

I thought Darkest Hour was too hard
This was the mission that made me knock the difficulty down to "Easy" where it stayed for the rest of the campaign.

I killed Xinny and Zero
By the time I noticed their callsigns it was too late anyway. I'd probably have let them shoot me otherwise though. Oh well.

I found the Simms conversation easy
I don't think the briefing tips helped much. I just took the flirtatious approach and said what seemed to be most reasonable.

I thought the Nyx dogfight was okay
I think this was the mission where my rebound keys wouldn't work, but other than that it wasn't too bad.

I understood the pointbuy system in Aristeia
... once I took the time to read what was going on. After that the HUD messages and reinforcement options were self-explanatory.

I thought the Vasudan logistics incident was a terrible accident
I don't believe that the UEF would deliberately destroy a chance not to lose the war, or that the GTVA could have convinced them that the corvette was a threat.

I felt good in One Perfect Moment
While playing it, I wished it would last much much longer.

I was shocked and appalled by the assassination
I bought into the idea that the UEF might have a chance at securing Vasudan support. It felt so close! I was genuinely angry... so I lingered behind and killed all the Gefs. :)

I thought the assassination was a good move
It seems to have worked beautifully anyway.

I (really) loved the soundtrack at the end of Pawns
I remember finding an excuse to pause the game and let that track play. All the music was great. I don't remember what mission, but the tw* tracks seem to be cut wrong still.

I thought Delenda Est was too hard
The second pair of corvettes. I really, really wish there were hotkeys for turrets. Just finding one takes me about 10 seconds. :(

I want to kill Admiral Steele
The only thing more irritating than his tactics is that they work.

[redsniper]

Why are we spoiler marking? Oh well...

Spoiler:

I identify with both UEF and GTVA

I didn't let Xinny and Zero shoot me down, I just got wtfpwned.

I d'awwwed on One Perfect Moment.

I both love and want to kill Admiral Steele.

[Colonol Dekker]

Booooowaaaah.

 
Fed lovers
 
 
But more people love Steele than hate him

[Flak]

I love Admiral Steele     
I want to kill Admiral Steele    

Yeah right, a great strategist, at the same time too dangerous to be left alive if he is not on your side. Just think about Erwin Rommel or Napoleon(if you are a British).

I thought the Nyx dogfight was okay  , I hate the Perseus more really

[Klaustrophobia]

i had no idea who xinny and zero were until i read this thread.  even if i had, i probably wouldn't have noticed who they were during the fight, because text is a fking ***** to read

i understood what the points system was about when the '0 of 6 points used' displayed, but it took me a bit to figure out to use the reinforcements menu.  the last time we had interactive stuff it was directly from those training message boxes.

i didn't answer a lot of them, because i never pay attention to the names of the missions :/
you should add "scanned all the cargo containers"
and "..... in the proper order"
"wrote it down and deciphered"

[Snail]

Spoiler:

One Perfect Moment made me... So... Happy...

[Hellstryker]

Voted.

[SC4RY_Z0MB13]

Spoiler:

I identify with the Alliance
The only way to stand against the Shivans is to unite under a banner of constant defence and vigilance. The UEF have little experience fighting the Shivans while the GTVA has even got a wing into Shivan territory.

I used a checkpoint at least once in the campaign
I didn't use it more than three times but it saves times, and seeing stuff explode on cue is nice.

I called the bluff in M05.
I didn't feel like any of the other options were right for the character.

I thought Darkest Hour was just right.
It took practice, but I beat it on Medium.

I killed Xinny and Zero
I only killed one of them, but I shot at them both.

I found the Simms conversation easy
Other than me not realizing that I could just do the conversation once and Alt-J at the beginning to skip instead of wasting the time.

I thought the Nyx dogfight was okay
Again took practice but I did something.

I understood the pointbuy system in Aristeia
I heard someone post somewhere about a pointbuy system so when I saw it in the campaign I knew what to do. The techroom provided the technical knowledge to know which choices were the right choices the first time I got to that part of the mission.

I thought the Vasudan logistics incident was a terrible accident
Flying in the mission we see that there was no threat to us, but an outsider jumping in can't wait to pull the trigger when lives are on the line.

I felt good in One Perfect Moment
I took the time to shoot up Luna City. It felt small proportionally. I liked it.

I was shocked and appalled by the assassination
When Laporte says "OMG Assassination" The only thing that has happened is ONE fighter wing and a bomb disabling the ENGINES of the ship and, in my run of the mission, left Hull Integrity at 83% or so. Perfect capturing material but Laporte leaps to muderous intent.

I thought the assassination was a good move
The transfer happened in between two ships which could have docked or at least been much closer. Must be amateur hour at the UEF. I would have preferred a capture attempt, but it would have been too risky. I mean come on, they were just ASKING for the shuttle to be shot down.
 
I (really) loved the soundtrack at the end of Pawns
What can I say.

I thought Delenda Est was just right
Easily my favorite mission of the campaign. However I thought it had a few logical flaws. The Indus never really threatened the Orion, it just hovered over it. I flew to the Orion and started attacking it with my poor loadout before I was ordered back to the Indus. Victory was near and it felt like we were waiting for a reason to leave.

I love Admiral Steele
His tactics embody the Terran side of the GTVA. I loved the meta-game trap he laid for the Ambassador and the Indus.

[QuantumDelta]

"Too hard" - Bloody annoying?

[MatthTheGeek]

If the Federation really understood that not fighting each other is how to survive, then they should have just surrendered.

Yeah, of course. And throw away the only way of life that give a chance of survival to the Terran and Vasudan species. The GTVA wouldn't accept a surrender without destroying completely the Ubuntu ideology, because that's why they started the war in the first place : to prevent that ideology to spread.

Seeing a ship that took us 20 years to complete and which was supposed to be invincible wtfpwned by a single Shivan vessel in a matter of minutes, and then witnessing the Shivans supernoving Capella, I can say that the Feds have NO idea what they're up against.

Yes, the GTVA know better the extent of the Shivan threat than the Feds. Hence they should know better that even a fleet of Raynors doesn't stand a bloody chance against them, but they keep the illusion than a military solution is viable.

The only way to stand against the Shivans is to unite under a banner of constant defence and vigilance.

This one made me laugh a lot. Nuf said.

[Dilmah G]

26 people are a bunch of c*nts.

Come on guys, you've got to admit he[Steele] was at least a decent tactician for the move in DE. (Even if that move had been played about a hundred times in the early 1000s by a cool Asian Dude... Props to anyone who knows who I'm talking about).

Sc4ry_zomb13:

Spoiler:

"When Laporte says "OMG Assassination" The only thing that has happened is ONE fighter wing and a bomb disabling the ENGINES of the ship and, in my run of the mission, left Hull Integrity at 83% or so. Perfect capturing material but Laporte leaps to muderous intent."

Laporte at this stage of the war hasn't grasped the one of the fundamental points of raw, human, warfare. It is not fair. There are no morals.

To some people, there is a line. What is, and isn't morally right.

To others, there is no line, only an end justified by the means.

I am a man who believes in both being applicable in certain circumstances.

As a pilot, it is nearly irrelevant to you whether your opponents respect that line. Because you assume that they don't know there is one. They are professionals, who will seize and capitalize any opportunity they come across to secure victory for their side, and to bring the man or woman next to them home alive.

As a pilot, you sign yourself over to your training. Always check your three-nine line. Always look out for your friends. Where are they going to attack from? What am I going to do if we're flanked?

That, is relevant to you. Those are questions you should have answers ready for, because chances are that you're going to have to apply it. Because that is one of the best defences you can have. Being prepared.

When they assassinate a respected leadership figure in the population, do you think the other side are a bunch of dogs? Absolutely.

But can you see why they did it? Of course. This is war.

Yes, the GTVA know better the extent of the Shivan threat than the Feds. Hence they should know better that even a fleet of Raynors doesn't stand a bloody chance against them, but they keep the illusion than a military solution is viable.

It's not that it's viable, it's the only solution they've got against a species that hasn't really been over for tea very much and as a result, don't have such a great reputation for talking amongst the Alliance.

[SomeGuyWithAName]

Here goes:

Spoiler:

I identify with the Federation
I think their approach is the only sensible way to save mankind. And even then it is still a long shot. The second Shivan incursion has showed to me, that military power can never overcome the Shivans, so for all it's worth we need to grasp for straws. If these straws are Elders communicating with powers beyond our understanding and a solid, guided economy that researches Shivans and the newly encountered Vishnans maybe uncovering their motives and ways to overcome their threat - that is much more sensible to me than concentrating on piling up military might.

Overall I guess the best thing would be to integrate the GTA into the UEF, yeah, that's right, I think they should be just the military arm of the federation in order to resist a third Shivan incursion long enough for the researchers to maybe find a real solution. They should not be the dominating part of mankind's government and administration.

I used a checkpoint at least once in the campaign
On Delenda Est alone I used it more often than I could count. My hat goes off to all that actually finished it with less than 10 tries, you are Gods among men, "Wargods" to be precise - know what I mean *nudge *nudge wink wink.

I threatened the hostage in M05
In a split second decision I thought that was the only way to have some actual way of forcing the gefs to listen. Also I didn't have much moral resentments, I didn't really kill the hostage, and I truly dislike both the Gaian Efforts ideals and methods.

I thought Darkest Hour was just right
It took me two tries, which is quite normal. The campaign overall is challenging, but in a satisfying way, as is this mission.

I killed Xinny and Zero
They were shooting at me, and at this moment, I wasn't the pilot that flew with them, I was a UEF Pilot with a grudge against the GT(V)A

I found the Simms conversation easy
The Briefing gave me all the information I had to know. Maybe I should revisit and try to fail on purpose, I wonder what will happen.

I thought the Nyx dogfight was okay
I died on the first try because it somewhat took me by surprise, but on the second try it was challenging yet doable - how a mission should be IMO.

I understood the pointbuy system in Aristeia
I thought the interface was very intuitive and easy to understand. I lost more time on thinking what package to order instead of figuring out how the thing worked.

I thought the Vasudan logistics incident was a terrible accident
For all they knew after a split second the GTA might have been engaged in a bording operation or setting up a bait. A hasty decision that I would have liked to be resolved another way. But in war - any decision is better than hesitation, so while this specific decision turned out to be wrong, from what they knew they still did the "right" thing.

I felt good in One Perfect Moment
Music: Nice. Dialogue: Nice. AoA had something like this with the mission where you establish formal contact with the remnant fleet. I liked it there as well.

I was shocked and appalled by the assassination
I still think Steele risked a bit too much. I didn't quite get enraged by the assassination (on a personal level, yes, especially when the elder was just telling me something imortant...), but by the way Steele manipulated the Vasudans.

I still think this may backfire on the GTA, with Vasudan-Human relations stressed anyway. If this came out the Alliance is in danger, and this would be a greater risk to survival of both species than an "infection" of the GTA by Ubuntu peacenicks - IMO.

I really loved the soundtrack at the end of Pawns
I really loved the soundtrack. Period.

I thought Delenda Est was too hard
Took me forever, and in the end I won by tuning down difficulty and getting lucky with timing of the JACKKNIFE group warping in, the beam overload and being able to eliminate the last fighter wave in time.

I think it needs tweaking - but perhaps others really don't have that many problems.

I love Admiral Steele and I want to kill him as well
He's a master strategist, he's one of the best military leaders you could wish to have on your side. But he lacks a feeling for politics (as I said, I think with deceiving the Vasudans he risked too much IMO), and he is of course too dangerous to be left alive when he is not on your side.

[MatthTheGeek]

It's not that it's viable, it's the only solution they've got against a species that hasn't really been over for tea very much and as a result, don't have such a great reputation for talking amongst the Alliance.

They have the records of the Orestes' 14th Battlegroup. They know of the Vishnans, they know of the Dante and a Shivan armada even larger than that the Shivans threw away in Capella. This should be more than enough to convince them that they don't stand a bloody chance. Of course the Shivans never tried to engage a diplomatic solution (and by the way, neither did the GTVA with the Feds), but the Vishnans did.

Spoiler:

I identify with the Federation
I think their approach is the only sensible way to save mankind. And even then it is still a long shot. The second Shivan incursion has showed to me, that military power can never overcome the Shivans, so for all it's worth we need to grasp for straws. If these straws are Elders communicating with powers beyond our understanding and a solid, guided economy that researches Shivans and the newly encountered Vishnans maybe uncovering their motives and ways to overcome their threat - that is much more sensible to me than concentrating on piling up military might.

Overall I guess the best thing would be to integrate the GTA into the UEF, yeah, that's right, I think they should be just the military arm of the federation in order to resist a third Shivan incursion long enough for the researchers to maybe find a real solution. They should not be the dominating part of mankind's government and administration.

Triple thumbs up  

[Dilmah G]

Hmm, that's true.

Agreed also on your point, SomeGuyWithAName, that's a view I held at the beginning of the testing process for WiH (back when it was in alpha stages!)