[Mongoose]

This comment is interesting but tells us hardly anything. Note that the Ancients don't necessarily have to be enemies.

Yeah, this.  Like I said, I can't see the Ancients remaining as any sort of galactic power, as the Lucifer fleet would have presumably finished them off long ago if they had maintained any real sort of space presence.  Maybe the GTVA wound up stumbling across a hidden colony of Ancients in some previously-unexplored border system.

[General Battuta]

I think they'd be more interesting as sources of information than anything else. "Oh, yeah, they totally blew up one of our stars too, man. It was a major bummer."

[NGTM-1R]

I've always viewed some form of alliance as natural, barring stupid actions, but the Ancients have had 8000 years to work on their weapons and manufacturing tech. They might not have shouldered then heavy lifting in a joint war against the Shivans, but I have to believe they would have been able to meaningfully contribute.

[Bobboau]

it's probably more like this was an offhand remark about some half remembered offhand remark made during an unofficial brainstorming session nearing the end of the fs2 development 11 years ago.

lets not go too crazy about this please.

[Black Wolf]

it's probably more like this was an offhand remark about some half remembered offhand remark made during an unofficial brainstorming session nearing the end of the fs2 development 11 years ago.

lets not go too crazy about this please.

[General Battuta]

Yes, I know that, but at this point that stuff is gold!

[Sushi]

it's probably more like this was an offhand remark about some half remembered offhand remark made during an unofficial brainstorming session nearing the end of the fs2 development 11 years ago.

lets not go too crazy about this please.

+1

Yes, I know that, but at this point that stuff is gold!

Meh.

[General Battuta]

As if the two points are in any way in disagreement.  This information has no bearing whatsoever on our activities. It is nonetheless undeniably interesting, if only as a bit of archaeology on something that never came together as anything but half-baked ideas.

[IronBeer]

Indeed. "Archaeology" is definitely a good way of putting it.

[TrashMan]

Like the war between Sol and the GTVA? Probably.

Meh. Doubt it. That whole scenario always seemed redicolous IMHO.

One one side you got a powerhouse of a system that's been isolated for 40-ish years, and on the other you have a alliance of like, 30+ systems.

30 vs 1. Why would Sol want a war, especially considering that the alliance was formed before the node collapse. Sure, the BETAC war formalized after that, but would people in Sol really have trouble with the GTVA? The T-V war is history (40-50 year old history), and Sol will definately get a powerful position in the GTVA.

[Dilmah G]

Well, we're entitled to interpret that scenario however we like, but WiH in my opinion (which I'll try to keep relatively unbiased) presented a plausible set of circumstances in which such a conflict could've taken place; though there are points in the story which you may find implausible. That's cool, that's just part of the process.

Now, to write the Ancients into all of our modding projects. 

[Hero_Swe]

It turns out that a small surviving group of ancients hid away in a distant part of the galaxy, and they managed to develop in secrecy away from the shivans and us. While we have been busy fighting the shivans, they have been busy spreading, with a new way of travel. They call it

The Stargate.



 

[Fury]

Yay. Wormhole X-treme in FS!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RTd3lgs4oQ

As for the topic. Meh.

[-Norbert-]

I doubt the political situation in a reunion would be all handshakes and hugs.
The GTVA is by it's own law the only legitimate authority in Human and Vasudan controlled space.
But back in the times of the GTA, Earth was calling the shots.

Since the GTVA is mostly democratic for all I know, that would leave Sol, or sectors of Sol, with just one voice in the council. Going from total rule to just one voice isn't going to sit well with whoever's governing Sol I guess.
That doesn't mean there has to be a war, but a military and economic - but not political - alliance is the most likely scenario for me.

[Kolgena]

Ancients are physically very similar to humans, and have been hiding amongst us since a long long time ago. Shivans found out, and got ticked off.

Would explain why all the cutscenes sound like their voiced by a very bad female human VA

[Ypoknons]

The GTVA is by it's own law the only legitimate authority in Human and Vasudan controlled space.

You can always convince Sol and the Vasudans to sign a new treaty if it's worth it (yes, the BETAC is called a convention. Same thing though, different name). Treaties are revoked or modified from time to time, and constitutions are changed, again, from time to time.

[-Norbert-]

True, but that would still require one or more likely both current governments to give up power.
That's not something that's gonna happen fast, probably needing month or even years of negotiations.
An alliance for mutual defense and a few trade agreements on the other hand are benefiting both sides without disadvantages for anyone, so they are most likely signed much quicker. And they are also a good first step for a full merge.

[NGTM-1R]

True, but that would still require one or more likely both current governments to give up power.

Why?

[headdie]

the most likely scenario is that Sol is allowed to maintain its sovereignty is a similar fashion to the Vasudan Imperium until the further unification can be organised

[-Norbert-]

True, but that would still require one or more likely both current governments to give up power.

Why?

Before the node is reopened, both governments have full controll. If they unite, they can't both have full controll, so someone has to relinquish a bit of controll. Unless the GTVA has no say in Sol and the ex-GTA no say beyond Sol, but then it wouldn't be a unification in the first place.