[Droid803]

There's just something about the overall arrangement of the textures that looks odd, but I just can't put my finger on it, even if the textures themselves are nifty.

That's because the Zagreus is mapped to the FENxx textures, designed to be tiled a bit more than regular textures (also, some have a different pixel ratio, meaning they're not square textures), so if you use "normal" square textures you end up with stuff that's way too busy (overtiled) and stretched because its got the wrong pixel ratio.

That all adds together to why the Zagreus (and the other ships mapped this way in INFA such as the Tyr and Magaera) do not work with other textures.

This is not a baseless assertion that it just "looks bad". I know why it looks bad, and you can fix it by either Re-mapping the Zagreus so it uses more "normal" texture ratios (but then it won't work with the FENxx textures its supposed to have), or by altering your textures to fit the tile/pixel ratio of the FENxx textures.

Neither are ideal - one is horribly inefficient with regards to having extra textures everywhere and another requires significant reworking of the model. Thus, I suggest that people just stick to the original textures, which is a much simpler solution.

I don't have an issue with the style at all (aside from the quirks such as the windows in the thruster cone which are silly). The model theoretically works fine with any texture set, but in practice it does not.

I'm only saying this because I like the Zagreus and I don't like seeing it being marred by its quirks.

I also like new turrets. Sirona ones?

Yes, those are Sirona turrets for the multiparts and the main guns. The green ones are stratcomm turrets that are supposed to go with a cool special texture but got turned into green things.

[starwolf1991]

Post-capellan, Ironbeer? Naw, this is post Great-War and post-revolution. Nice guess though, and yeah the odd texture placements are old news. They have been fixed already, but thanks for the reminder.

Sounds like you don't like green-looking turrets, eh droid?  

If you must know, those are not beam cannon spots. They are instead laser turret spots -- The ICS have a version they made which is slightly improved over the former GTA's turret systems. Standard armament really.

Focusing on plot development atm, and clearing up some issues with fightercraft of the ICS. Annoying stuff dealing with fighters sometimes 

[Nyctaeus]

Most of the DS's Zagreus's textures are recolored Mediavp ones from Arcadia and Orion. Shape of that ship and textures makes that ship nice post-GW next-gen ship [in the difference to some previous ones].

And I can't agree with Droid in retexturing INFA ships and Zagreus HTL. It's possible to do good retexture - if you know how to do it, these models can looks very good. Only Fen05 can make problems.

[starwolf1991]

Yeah, Fen05 does cause problems actually. Fen05 is crucial on the Zargeus because the black bit is used to line parts of the ship and serves as an engine texture. Without it, you're doomed unless you make a separate texture for it by hacking the model. I have used fen05, but instead of using the original, I replaced the yellow stripe with a hacked version of capital01-06.

You can see it in the pic. Not too great upclose but it does the job and brings the Zag closer to an Orion than the Fen or Levy. That was the main aim after all; An orion-looking Zagreus.

Oh, in case you're wondering about the name on the nameplate, here's the meaning: Tsukuyomi is a Japanese God of the moon. Typically, he is depicted as as a winged warrior or ninja. I picked it because it just felt right and seemed to have a powerful emphasis to it. 

[Mobius]

Retexturing the Zagreus can be extremely difficult unless you know what you're doing. Anyway, the Tsukuyomi looks very nice... keep it up!

[starwolf1991]

Howdy ho HLPers! Next update with a media upload requested by Shadow. Here we are:



You can ask Shadow about how the famous Claymore ended up in Dark Storm. 

Now, changes on the development front; With Shadow occupied as of recent, it's temporarily up to me to continue current development of Dark Storm. And I'm pleased to say that Dark Storm is in its 'Prelude to War' phase -- In other words, with most problems dealt with, focus on the prelude chapter of the story is now more possible.

Prehaps the biggest part of this development phase is a major overhaul of the Independent Colonial States faction -- In earlier phases, they seemed to be disconnected to the whole post-Great War scenario in my eyes. Now it is no longer the case. And thanks to talks with FSF, more is yet to come. So hopefully, many will find the ICS likeable.

That's it for now. Enjoy the claymore 

[Commander Zane]

God it's about time the sexy Claymore model appears in more mods.

[Nyctaeus]

Isn't it Moonred's model made for Inferno? If yes, that's a good news . Looks cool.

[Commander Zane]

I don't recall Moonred making a Claymore Mk. I model, if it is then it's an updated model of an older version with the same shape.

[asyikarea51]

*Stumbles into thread and looks at pictures*

Nice Claymore. Zagreus model... mmmhhh... dunno.

No matter what kind of texture it uses or etc, it just looks... "off" to me. Maybe it's the design of the model itself or... something, who knows. Whenever I put it into a table for whatever-next-mod-experiment-that-I'm-working-on-again-that-might-never-finish and compared it to everything else in the table I end up getting rid of it all the time.

Not so sure about Dark Storm itself (that said, your Zagreus texture is cool and serves its Orion-ish purpose ), but in the INF sense yes it is supposed to look really old, more Fenris-ish less Orion-ish but somehow it looks more like "zomg im so old i come from like the year 2000 with my duuuh textures and i belong to some lame owner who lacks technology" instead of "im old but what I have in myself would later be upgraded and end up on the Orion" and... yeah that kinda stuff.

I reckon if I ever finished something and forced myself to use the Zagreus model I'd probably say "screw it" and throw in the rest of INFA's "old ships" together as one faction and keep the tiled textures, yes that old Fenris thing and the Maegara even. Somehow my brain or whatever else prefers it that way since the styling (to me) looks kinda... having a singular purpose, almost unusable for anything or anywhere else, or...

meh.

*Ends his banter and walks out XD*

[starwolf1991]

It is not the latest version of the Claymore that is in use by Inferno. This is a much older version, which was kindly given to Shadow by a certain someone. And while it inst the latest or high-poly, I must say it is a beautiful model 

asyikarea51, that's your opinion. If you like INF stuff, that's fine -- I'm sure lots of people love Inferno's wonderful designs. But save that kind of banter for another thread, ok? Last I checked, this wasn't an INF thread. No offense.

[Nyctaeus]

Inferno uses Zagreus as a pre-GW destroyer, but others can use it as a newer design. In ED Demo it's ship based on plans of pre-GW destroyer. In one of my mods, it serves as a light carrier-destroyer designed by Han-Roland Corporation 60 years after the Great War and it's fine in this role. Zagreus is cool for various roles and you shouldn't colligate this model only with ultra-old destroyer from INFA.

BTW. I used modiffied version of Zagreus even as a secret NTF destroyer, a few months after Capella. It was fine too , but I've lost this mod :/ .

[Goober5000]

colligate

Wow, I had to go look that up.  Good one.

[ssmit132]

colligate

Wow, I had to go look that up.  Good one.

So did I. Whee, a new word I can use!

[Nyctaeus]

Eh, I'm using poor translator .

[Mobius]

You can ask Shadow about how the famous Claymore ended up in Dark Storm. 

Yeah, I'd really want to know...

[Commander Zane]

My guess is there isn't enough fighters that look sleek or streamlined enough to where a person could go, "Hey, that fighter looks like it could run circles around some **** and mess them up."

[starlord]

Hey Starwolf: what's the status of this one?

[aeon48m]

This project makes me realize I should really learn to mod...
Retextured Reyena looks fantastic.
edit: woah, that's a big necro there

[ShadowGorrath]

Hey Starwolf: what's the status of this one?

We're working on it...