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Why did command send the GTD Bastion after the SD Lucifer?
The Orion-class ships in FS1 don't seem to have any kind of weaponry like the Lucifer to defeat capital ships. The Galatea got destroyed very easily by the Lucifer... what is the point in sending the Bastion after the Lucifer when the Lucifer can just as easily destroy it?

 

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Re: Why did command send the GTD Bastion after the SD Lucifer?
fighters.
to kill it in subspace.
the bastion carries fighters, you see.
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Re: Why did command send the GTD Bastion after the SD Lucifer?
It could also engage the Lucifer safely with the its shields down, because remember, in fluff, capital ships all had good weaponry (but not as good in game because it'd have been hard for anything unshielded otherwise)
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Re: Why did command send the GTD Bastion after the SD Lucifer?
Rearm and repair, and also a turret soak. The Bastion can drive in close and the bombers can use it as a shield while they obtain lock, then duck out to fire. Also, in a shieldless environment, the Bastion being there to soak up the attention of defending Shivan fighter wings simply by being large (and perhaps adopting a collision course with the Lucifer?) would help a lot to keep the bombers safe.
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Re: Why did command send the GTD Bastion after the SD Lucifer?
I always thought they sent it because the player was stationed on it. :) 
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Re: Why did command send the GTD Bastion after the SD Lucifer?
I always thought they sent it because the player was stationed on it. :)

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Re: Why did command send the GTD Bastion after the SD Lucifer?
Apart from the beams, the Lucifer is underarmed for her size and those beams only fire forward, while the Bastion would have come in behind the Lucifer. But the real reason for ordering the Bastion to attack the Luci was simple desperation. It was the only destroyer in a position to carry out the attack.

 

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Re: Why did command send the GTD Bastion after the SD Lucifer?
I think shivans know better than to blow up a destroyer class with beams while in subspace. The lucy and all shivans would be focused on defending the Lucifer, it had 800k HP, so they could make it. I just think they didn't realize that terans didn't know they'll collapse the node and thought they are not stupid enough to do thet. Well, **** happens, they were :D My point is that the battle would have the same outcome no matter what the terrans sent, even if it were 10 fenrises. Shivans would have disarmed/disabled them and leave them to rot in subspace.
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Re: Why did command send the GTD Bastion after the SD Lucifer?
The Shivans will destroy anything that opposes them, except those who offer free samples of Bosch Beer for life. :p
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Re: Why did command send the GTD Bastion after the SD Lucifer?
The Shivans will destroy anything that opposes them, except those who offer free samples of Bosch Beer for life. :p

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Re: Why did command send the GTD Bastion after the SD Lucifer?
But Bosh Beer HQ was already destroyed. :P

 

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Re: Why did command send the GTD Bastion after the SD Lucifer?
That would've been great in an alternate reality campaign (maybe in 'What if' ;) )

The Bastion actually follows the Lucifer through Subspace and accelerates until the ships are side by side. And when there are only ten seconds left to destroy the reactors the Bastion rams the damn thing out of this universe. What a suspense "NOOOOOOO!!!"-moment :shaking:
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Re: Why did command send the GTD Bastion after the SD Lucifer?
Funny thing about both ships is that they have the same maximum velocity, so unless the Lucifer is disabled, has it engines damaged a little, slows down to allow the Bastion to catch up or some other fluke, the Bastion, in real space, cannot catch up to the Lucifer at all.
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Re: Why did command send the GTD Bastion after the SD Lucifer?
Engine-overload is the magic word here. It'd make the thing even cooler because the Bastion sustains serious damage to it's reactor cores (hull breaches in the rear sections etc). Goosebumps all over that mission!
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Re: Why did command send the GTD Bastion after the SD Lucifer?
I always figured that the Bastion got sent in because she was simply the closest ship with a reasonable complement of strike craft on hand when the Lucy went into the node.
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Re: Why did command send the GTD Bastion after the SD Lucifer?
I always figured that the Bastion got sent in because she was simply the closest ship with a reasonable complement of strike craft on hand when the Lucy went into the node.

And also because it hauled a bunch of ursas and harbingers. It took two jumps to follow the lucifer, and shivans have much more accurate jumps - i think command knew they can't catch them. What i'll never understand is why they didn't send the Orion from Sol to Delta Serpentis to give the Lucifer a warm welcome at the node. There was no point for waiting at the SOL side of the node as they won't breach the shields anyway if the shivans got through.
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Re: Why did command send the GTD Bastion after the SD Lucifer?
Is that Orion in Sol even canon?
If yes, it was in no position to do so. If it was waiting in Delta Serpentis at the node, the Lucifer would simply have blasted her out of the way with her beams. And since there is no evidence for it to be possible, that Orion couldn't enter into the Lucifers tunnel and then turned around inside subspace, to engage her.

 

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Re: Why did command send the GTD Bastion after the SD Lucifer?
I would have bet that all of the destroyers and most of the cruisers would have been out of Sol to deal with the Shivans attacking the other systems.
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Re: Why did command send the GTD Bastion after the SD Lucifer?
Is that Orion in Sol even canon?
No. In fact, it might even be run contradictory to canon, since it was not present at the node in the ending cutscene of FS1.

 

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Re: Why did command send the GTD Bastion after the SD Lucifer?
I thought there was a GTD Washington closer to Earth, and therefore impossible to see out at that distance.