[Nohiki]

@Had: Well, the noobies might have some difficulties with better AI, but i guess that can be dealt with by freding...
@TrashMan: PI makes a heavy use of these things and it's true that it does work quite well. I really liked the maxim with FOF, it returned the akheton to the position of anti-turret gun.
@Batutta: I second that. Snipes isn't Snipes without his voice

[IronBeer]

So long as these re-makes are labelled as such, I'd be for it. Canon campaigns are canon, no matter how thin they may be by modern standards.

Re-doing both retail campaigns would be a colossal undertaking, though- most of us are already familiar with the development cycle for ST:R?

[Nohiki]

One more thing, how's it with the open-thingy? I mean the code was free, but as far as i know we technically aren't allowed to use the original voiceact. Please tell me i'm wrong at this

[Jeff Vader]

One more thing, how's it with the open-thingy? I mean the code was free, but as far as i know we technically aren't allowed to use the original voiceact. Please tell me i'm wrong at this

Well, since the voice-acting is NOT included in the source code of the game engine...

[Mort]

Upgrading Fs1 and Fs2 will not be as easy as upgrading Silent Threat. Thats because ST was considered to be crap and to make a campaign thats better than retail when its already good will not be easy

[mjn.mixael]

I like this idea. And you know I would want to be there for cutscenes/ANIs and any other kinds of work you think I can do!

On a side note I would LOVE to see FS1 with capships that are worth a darn...

[Galatea warps in...
PILOT:Glad the calvary could make it!
GALATEA: Uh.. Pilots can you cover us please?]

  Never made any sense to me....

[starbug]

I think this is a fantastic idea! god knows some of FS2 missions need a bit of redoing, ie colossus vs the Sathanas  . So i am all in favor of this 

[Black Wolf]

I think it's a bad idea. It'll cause grief and arguments, because while ST was more or less universally considered Crap, both FS1 and FS2, despite a few problems, were generally considered quite good. Change them, and prepare for a whole bunch of unhappy people.

Besides, while there afe a few weak spots in FS2, it's still the campaign that, ten years later, gets remembered as the defining aspect of the best space sim of all time. You really want to mess with that?

[General Battuta]

Yes. It had a lot of ****. FS1 even more so, as far as I'm concerned. We can do (and have done) better.

If people don't like the remakes, they can always replay the originals. They're not going anywhere.

[Hades]

I think it's a bad idea. It'll cause grief and arguments, because while ST was more or less universally considered Crap, both FS1 and FS2, despite a few problems, were generally considered quite good. Change them, and prepare for a whole bunch of unhappy people.

A lot of unhappy people for all the most inane reasons.

Besides, while there are a few weak spots in FS2, it's still the campaign that, ten years later, gets remembered as the defining aspect of the best space sim of all time. You really want to mess with that?

Yes, so long as it is made better.

Geez, you people don't seem to get that

These aren't replacing the old, merely supplementing them as ST:R did to ST. If you don't like the idea then don't play it.

[rscaper1070]

I fully support this. I have been playing through Fsport with the v8 AI and it kicks ass. I can only guess how cool it would be with all the other wrinkles ironed out. Re-imagining classics isn't anything new and who better to try than the members of this community. If I heard the IP rights had been sold to (your least favorite game studio) and they were going to rebuild it then I'd be worried.

[Hades]

derp, oops

[Black Wolf]

Eh, well, if people want to work on this, go ahead. Personally, I suspect it'll prove to be too emotive an issue, and so I don't think it'll go far. But that's just my opinion, and I'm prepared to be proven wrong. Have at it.

[TrashMan]

Yeah, I know we could do a lot better than V did. The retail campaigns are kinda thin compared to modern fan stuff.

Depends in what regards and what one is expecting.
And could you do a lot better? I dunno. It's not a given. We can certainly TRY, but an outright claim of superiority is premature.

I for one don't consider BP or any other fan made campaign for that matter superior to the stock FS campaign in terms of story and atmosphere.

If people want to give it a shot, I'm game and willing to help. But we need a more in-depth analysis or what and how. Exactly what missions should be changed, how, to what extent, etc.. all those things need to be decided and planned.

[General Battuta]

I wouldn't be arrogant enough to put value on something I worked on. I leave that to others.

Actually that's a bald-faced lie, I totally would. But I don't tend to look at campaigns as binary good/bad sets. They all have strengths and weaknesses. I think we can improve FS retail campaigns while retaining their existing strengths.

[Rodo]

I'm waiting for someone to come along and chop your head off just because of mentioning this.

FYI I'm 100% behind this, I love the idea... I just never got to promote this because I knew the majority of the HLP community would be against it.

If you need a fredder, I'm here

[peterv]

Changed my mind already. Fury you should plan this in private - top secret - SOC thing 

[Sushi]

Frankly, I'm surprised this hasn't been done already.

Then again, maybe I'm not. Getting anyone to agree on exactly what should be updated and what should be left alone is a massive PITA I wouldn't want to go anywhere near. If you knew what I'd change about FS1, I'd get ripped to shreds.

[General Battuta]

If this happens it will be a small cabal who ignore the **** out of everyone else. Which is how things get done around here.

[ShadowGorrath]

No comment.

If this happens it will be a small cabal who ignore the **** out of everyone else. Which is how things get done around here.