[Nuke]

i do like classic console games from the 16 bit era and before. there were some good pc games at the time but your average computer cost about $3k back then and all i could afford was a super nintendo. during the space between early 32 bit machines and current generation consoles, computers had better graphics and there were a lot of good pc games at the time, and that is why i became a pc gamer. now we got some well designed console games that look top notch (at least when compared to your average pc), and not very many pure pc games to choose from these days.

so really the only thing that divides pc and console are the genres of games that work well on each. pick your genre, then pick the machine that does it best.

[Mobius]

Because I'm primarily a console gamer, I strongly disagree. PC games have their advantages and certain genres work much better on the PC than in any console, but the handiness console games can ensure is unmatched.

No installations, no slowdowns, no memory issues, no possible incompatibilities with <insert name>, nothing. Consoles allow to enjoy games istantly. Not to mention that the TV as a screen is far better than a monitor. Oh, and how can we forget portable consoles? They're simply awesome.

[Mongoose]

Yeah, there's nothing in the PC realm that can really compare with crashing on the couch in front of a big TV to play some console goodness.  I mean, I've spent many an hour perched in my computer chair too, but it's nowhere near as comfortable.

[Mobius]

That statement of yours brings back memories.

[Nuke]

its hard to turn playing video games into a social event on a pc, unless of course you have a few of them networked together. or you can haul your rig to megalithic lan parties. its not like being able to stick your game console in a backpack and go to your friends house like in the old days. ive been able to get enough people together to play classic starcraft. i keep a stack of old throwaway laptops in my room for this kinda thing. social gaming hasnt been confined to consoles for quite some time.

[Davros]

Yeah, there's nothing in the PC realm that can really compare with crashing on the couch in front of a big TV to play some console goodness.

yes there is, its called crashing on the couch in front of a big TV to play some PC Gaming Goodness

ps: Can you have "The Sacred Terabyte of Gaming Goodness" (slight pause to allow readers to kneel in reverence) on a console answer = no

[NGTM-1R]

ps: Can you have "The Sacred Terabyte of Gaming Goodness" (slight pause to allow readers to kneel in reverence) on a console answer = no

Considering its only advantage is for the lazy in this case, I'm not sure your argument is valid.

(And arguably, you could. You'd just have to do a hatchetjob's modification.)

[TrashMan]

Yeah, there's nothing in the PC realm that can really compare with crashing on the couch in front of a big TV to play some console goodness.  I mean, I've spent many an hour perched in my computer chair too, but it's nowhere near as comfortable.

There are some big monitors out there, and ways to use the TV as your monitor...add a bit longer keyboard cable, and you can sit on the sofa with a keyboard...or not.


Yeah, consoles are simpler and easier to use, but the sheer difference in potential and offerings beat the living schnitzel out of consoles. Even if I ignored anything else expect gaming uses, I'd still prefer PC...keyboard + types of game for it pwwwn consoles.

[Turambar]

I will be playing on my excellent gaming PC, sitting on the couch in front of my 58 inch plasma tv that serves as my computer monitor, listening to the 7.1 surround that I've hooked up to my dedicated sound card.  No console experience will ever challenge my PC gaming setup.  (I still need to set this up, waiting to move out first)

[headdie]

Yeah, consoles are simpler and easier to use, but the sheer difference in potential and offerings beat the living schnitzel out of consoles. Even if I ignored anything else expect gaming uses, I'd still prefer PC...keyboard + types of game for it pwwwn consoles.

so then why is it that consoles are now working with new control systems Wii remotes, Kinect, etc and PC development is showing no signs of evolution, yes keyboard and mouse is a good system but it does have its flaws and limits the ways you have to play a game.

tbh neither is superior its like comparing an Valkyrie to a Hercules, both are fighters, both are excellent at their jobs but their strengths and weaknesses mean they are better for different tasks.

[TrashMan]

Yeah, consoles are simpler and easier to use, but the sheer difference in potential and offerings beat the living schnitzel out of consoles. Even if I ignored anything else expect gaming uses, I'd still prefer PC...keyboard + types of game for it pwwwn consoles.

so then why is it that consoles are now working with new control systems Wii remotes, Kinect, etc and PC development is showing no signs of evolution, yes keyboard and mouse is a good system but it does have its flaws and limits the ways you have to play a game.

tbh neither is superior its like comparing an Valkyrie to a Hercules, both are fighters, both are excellent at their jobs but their strengths and weaknesses mean they are better for different tasks.

Because consoles needed to expand ind inovate something?

PC controls are solid and there's a wide array of controllers.

Regarding innovation - PC is the driver here when it comes to games... Even when the regular industry drops the ball, the indy industry picks up the slack. And the fact that I can download good and free games from the internets - that fact alone pwns consoles.

A better comparison might be a Spitfire and a F-22 Raptor. Sure, the spitfire is simpler, cheaper and flies good - but it can't really compete with the F-22 in terms of ability.

[MR_T3D]

Yeah, consoles are simpler and easier to use, but the sheer difference in potential and offerings beat the living schnitzel out of consoles. Even if I ignored anything else expect gaming uses, I'd still prefer PC...keyboard + types of game for it pwwwn consoles.

so then why is it that consoles are now working with new control systems Wii remotes, Kinect, etc and PC development is showing no signs of evolution, yes keyboard and mouse is a good system but it does have its flaws and limits the ways you have to play a game.

tbh neither is superior its like comparing an Valkyrie to a Hercules, both are fighters, both are excellent at their jobs but their strengths and weaknesses mean they are better for different tasks.

except many of the uses of the motion are either gimmicky or emulating something you can do with a joystick/wheel, and still I'd rather use the physical joystick, mouse, whatever, over one relying on inertia doohicickies, cameras, and/or wichcraft.
also, things like track IR are motion control, and used to enhance the experience, but not from the whole thing, and I for one think that's better.

[Nuke]

its not hard to get a wiimote to work on a pc. but i really dont much like the games that such a motion control is used for. i thought the wii was pretty cool when i first played it. the graphics were kinda lame but the gameplay was different. i kinda wish computers would pick up on motion control, if only to be competitive in that market. i mean we already have the trackir, which could be used beyond simple head tracking if a game designer was so inclined.

[Delta_V]

If I'm in the mood for some serious gaming, PC is definitely superior, but a lot of the gaming I do is just for relaxation.  After I've fried my brain for three hours on calculus, I'm not in the mood for serious gaming.  I'd rather blow **** up in Halo, and when it comes to stuff like that, I think consoles are better.

[Mongoose]

Yeah, there's nothing in the PC realm that can really compare with crashing on the couch in front of a big TV to play some console goodness.

yes there is, its called crashing on the couch in front of a big TV to play some PC Gaming Goodness

I dunno about you, but attempting to balance a keyboard on my lap while simultaneously trying to figure out how the hell I'm going to use a mouse properly doesn't seem like an ideal experience to me.

[Solatar]

Need I point out that a good gaming PC is significantly more expensive than any console?

[Topgun]

Need I point out that a good gaming PC is significantly more expensive than any console?

But can be used for more than just games, justifying the price.

[Solatar]

I wouldn't pay an extra $1000 for an Xbox that could do word processing.  Is the price really justified?

As Mobius pointed out, games can be optimized for the hardware on a console because you know EXACTLY what your end-user will be using.  To get the same "peace of mind" with regards to all games running out of the box, you need to get hi-end PC hardware.

[Turambar]

I wouldn't pay an extra $1000 for an Xbox that could do word processing.  Is the price really justified?

As Mobius pointed out, games can be optimized for the hardware on a console because you know EXACTLY what your end-user will be using.  To get the same "peace of mind" with regards to all games running out of the box, you need to get hi-end PC hardware.

How about for an xbox that you can do 3d modelling on that will run games better than an xbox ever will

[Topgun]

I wouldn't pay an extra $1000 for an Xbox that could do word processing.  Is the price really justified?

As Mobius pointed out, games can be optimized for the hardware on a console because you know EXACTLY what your end-user will be using.  To get the same "peace of mind" with regards to all games running out of the box, you need to get hi-end PC hardware.

Yes, word processing, thats what we use our computers for.