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Offline Commander Zane

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But that it didn't occur to many players like that does mean the mission designers didn't do as bad a job as you claim.  Even if it didn't serve a purpose to you later on, so what?  You were part of a failed experiment.  It was showing that the GTVA was trying any means it could to gain an edge on the Shivans, and a live test probably provides much more useful data than a drone simulation.  We know Command was more than willing to put lives at risk, so it's no surprise to me what happened.

Except then they're all proud when they give you two new TAG missiles. They're like "hey dude, these are awesome" when they're completely useless.
And yeah, how do you even manage to slave a weapons system with no way to regain control if Alpha 1 and 2 flying Ulysses die? They also throw away a lot of Lokis and pilots simply to lure in some fighters.
When neither of the two missiles ever appear and one is incompatable to every fighter. :P

 

Offline Qent

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The TAG-B is available in "Speaking in Tongues"; I was wrong too, as it is equipped by default.

 

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Clearly, GTVA command didn't think the whole thing through, or they simply failed to account for...a lot of scenarios...
Unfortunately the rest of the game doesn't make a good effort of providing you with ships that can really take advantage of the TAG system...shame, it had promise if you weren't shoved in a crummy fighter with one primary bank crippled, and no backup missiles in the one mission it actually works in >.>
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Offline Qent

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The wiki says that turrets slightly prefer to shoot tagged targets. Is there any truth to that?

 

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Yeah, they do, if it's TAG'd type 2 or something (the TAG B type, not TAG A)...not like it does much though...

The only real use of TAG A's is highlighting stealth fighters (aside from FREDded stuff like weapon slaved to TAG)...which never comes into play.
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Offline Qent

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A is also type 2.

 

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Oh huh.
A testament to how little it does :P
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Offline Kolgena

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Derelict (I think) used TAGs to great effect. So they have potential, just like, it wasn't realized in the retail campaign.

And you'd have to have some epic skill to tag a stealth fighter. Hitting one with primaries is hard enough for me without the lead indicator, let alone with slow dumbfire missiles with slow refire rates. The aspect lock TAGs would also be nigh useless against stealth fighters.

 

Offline Commander Zane

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I don't seem to have much trouble hitting them with dumbfires.
Probably because of Retail AI. :P

 

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the tags in game of tag would work a hell of a lot better if the missile points on the uli weren't so bad for the job, because of the positioning you have to get close (but not too close) too your target and then fire off several missiles hoping one hits.   If you could just fire one without having to concentrate where it was spawning from, the mission would play a lot better 'cause you could just lob 1 or 2 off at a a target and move on knowing the Warspite would beat the daylights out of the little shiv ****
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Offline Liberator

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You guys do realize that if you stay within beam range of the Warspite that she basically kills everyhting you TAG right?  When they say all available fire power, they mean flak, beams, blobs and the kitchen sink.

Stay within 1500m and you should be golden.
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Offline Nohiki

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Worst. Mission. Ever. Of all time. I managed to play through it once, but then i just cheat my way through it whenever i'm playing retail campaign.

 
You guys do realize that if you stay within beam range of the Warspite that she basically kills everyhting you TAG right?  When they say all available fire power, they mean flak, beams, blobs and the kitchen sink.

Stay within 1500m and you should be golden.

Yeah, you are bassicly the forward artillery observer. ALl that firepower is at YOUR disposal. I actually kinda liked that mission.

 

Offline Snail

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Maybe if the artillery was cool but it wasn't, it was just whoop pshaw pshaw like all AAA except more powerful and with different sound effects.

 

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It was kinda of frustrating getting stuck in an Uly, but it wasn't my least favorite misson.
I was kinda fun having all that firepower practically in your control and I too think tagging is underused in retail. They could've made some awesome missions with that system. :/

 

Offline General Battuta

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It was kinda of frustrating getting stuck in an Uly, but it wasn't my least favorite misson.
I was kinda fun having all that firepower practically in your control and I too think tagging is underused in retail. They could've made some awesome missions with that system. :/

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Offline Ravenholme

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It was kinda of frustrating getting stuck in an Uly, but it wasn't my least favorite misson.
I was kinda fun having all that firepower practically in your control and I too think tagging is underused in retail. They could've made some awesome missions with that system. :/

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Has one of the best uses of TAGging, for sure. I'd still like a BP scenario which has me piloting an Aurora and using that to tag ships for SSM strikes.
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Offline General Battuta

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The GTVA actually used TAGs pretty extensively in Post Meridian and a mission that didn't make it into R1, but it was so deadly to players it had to be toned down.

 

Offline Kolgena

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Fury AI flak was already retardedly powerful. I cringe to think how much worse it'd be if the player got tagged.

 

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Avoid the flak and you won't get hit, pilot.
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