[Flipside]

That's why I said 'I think', I'm pretty sure one of your loadout was a kinetic? It's been a few years since I played the mission.

[Droid803]

Yep, your loadout is locked.

One time one of my older pilot files corrupted itself though, and I think I had 1 Subach and no secondaries as my locked defaults. Needless to say, I was unimpressed.

That's about what you really get for that mission anyway

That's why I said 'I think', I'm pretty sure one of your loadout was a kinetic? It's been a few years since I played the mission.

Well, kinetic guns are great for the mission after (pushing those pesky Pegasi away from the Fenris, eventually ticking them off and making them come after YOU. Works especially well with EMP missiles, which allows you to kill the pesky Moloch too )

[Flipside]

That's probably the mission I'm thinking of now you mention it...

[Marcov]

This mission is frustrating simply because I don't get the kills.

[General Battuta]

This mission is frustrating simply because I don't get the kills.

Just get in a few hits with the Subach and you will; capships can't get kills with beams.

[MatthTheGeek]

I thought that had been fixed in the code more or less recently.

[General Battuta]

Nope, as it was never a bug; you have to enable an AI profile feature.

[Goober5000]

I liked A Game of TAG.  It was different, interesting, and fun.  Plus we got Kappa 3 providing plot development, which was pretty cool.   I didn't have trouble killing fighters; I just did what I was told and stuck near the Warspite.

A shame Alpha 2 couldn't follow orders the same way.   Invariably, she ends up disabled at 1% hull hollering "I can't hold them off much longer!" repeatedly, until she finally sends her mission-critical messages, has ship-guardian turned off, and blows up.  (It struck me that "Roger Command, we'll get the job done" was a pretty even-tempered response in light of her inevitable death two seconds later.)

I'm actually surprised there's so much dislike of this mission compared to the next one, Proving Grounds.  It has essentially the exact same A-plot as Argonautica, with a much inferior B-plot.  And trying to save the Oberon is absolutely Sisyphean in its frustration.  I can't stand Proving Grounds; I cheat through it every time I play the main FS2 campaign.

No kidding, but first playthrough, was not aware of that happy fact

Funny story for me... the very first time I played that mission, I couldn't understand what the heck "follow the nav buoys" was supposed to mean, so I just flew straight ahead, looking for nav buoys.  Lo and behold I run smack into the Grall a few minutes later.   I remember thinking at the time that it was a rather underwhelming mission considering the set-up, but then I found out what you're actually supposed to do and flew it properly the next time.

[Kolgena]

Proving Grounds used to really really suck for me at one point. The Moloch was unkillable at any difficulty unless I got really  lucky, and I failed the mission unless it died.

I think some things were already starting to break with that pilot file, which is why I couldn't progress until the damn corvette got ~+K'd

[General Battuta]

Proving Grounds and Argonautica were both really hard.

[Kolgena]

Ironically, Proving grounds is a mission that gets easier the higher you turn up the difficulty. At least, that's if you want to kill the Moloch.

[Nemesis6]

I never actually found out whether the tag missiles worked in any other mission; seemed like too much of a hassle, locking on, probably not hitting the target. If the original version of the tag missile, firing like a tempest, was retained, and it still worked in the next missions, I might give it a shot.

[S-99]

I thought the idea of tags in the game was pointless. If you fly near a friendly corvette with evil people chasing you, the corvette will blast them out of the sky for you without tags.

I would have found tags handy if you could mark an area on a target with them and would make bomb lock on time 10x faster or something while still performing normal tag missile abilities. And also would have been cool to have a couple of going out in stealth fighter and tagging a few shivan war ships for tracking (use tags like beacons in a longer term sense).

The mission in question isn't too hard, just annoying. Stay near that corvette, tag it, take it out with subachs while the corvette does it's thing. When the bombers come out, i usually get a little pissy, but you can keep that corvette alive.

[T-LoW]

[...]Well, kinetic guns are great for the mission after (pushing those pesky Pegasi away from the Fenris, eventually ticking them off and making them come after YOU. Works especially well with EMP missiles, which allows you to kill the pesky Moloch too )

I never - and T-LoW means NEVER - ever shot a EMP missile without jamming myself and everyone around me into oblivion. I killed the friggin' Moloch just once in that mission... man, that was a relief for sure

[SpardaSon21]

Is the A.I. even affected by EMP's?

[General Battuta]

They'll switch targets at random.

[Snail]

Bombs already in-flight will also self-destruct.

[Kolgena]

Wait what??

I didn't know that... Makes the EMP far more valuable in my eyes now.

[Timerlane]

No, they just drop to a dead stop, making them stupidly easy to shoot.

Last I knew(though I haven't played it since the 3.6.10MVPs/early 3.6.12 builds), the Warspite for some reason stops shooting at tagged Manticores once the bombers show up, so not only are you scrambling to peg the bombers and shoot bombs to save the Lucidity and Warspite, your 'easy button' to remove the Harpoon-spamming interceptor itch stops working.

[Klaustrophobia]

tag missiles are about the dumbest weapon in all of freespace.  if i'm going to go through the trouble of tagging a fighter, there better be some better result than it gets hit by an AA beam ONCE.  to make tag fun or even worthwhile, it should be an insta-kill, or enable beam hits from retardedly long range or something.