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How do you view pornography??

It isn't anything bad, as long as you're in control.
18 (21.4%)
It is a hideous sin against Jesus. Even looking at it for a split second, you've commited adultery.
1 (1.2%)
LOL its okay i can view it all day if i want no problems
12 (14.3%)
Don't try to watch it; do so only rarely.
4 (4.8%)
It can very easily corrupt your mind and is a severe act of disrespect for the opposite sex. Don't even think about it.
5 (6%)
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30 (35.7%)
Why watch porn when you can make it?
14 (16.7%)

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Offline pecenipicek

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Re: How do you view porn? (LOLZ aside)
Marcov, out of curiosity, how old are you? These remind me of conversations I had between the ages of 12-13.

Either way, porn is porn, bro. Just don't tell the girly friend about your stash and you'll be fine, eh?
my girlfriend would like to whack you over the head with a stick and steal your porn stash.
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Offline Dilmah G

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Re: How do you view porn? (LOLZ aside)
Well she could just have asked. :D

 

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:D :D :D
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Re: How do you view porn? (LOLZ aside)
I don't watch porn because I don't like to support that industry.

I know it doesn't apply to all parts of the industry, but how many people involved in this are just people trading their dignity for next month's rent?
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Re: How do you view porn? (LOLZ aside)
That applies to so many jobs and people, it's not funny.
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Re: How do you view porn? (LOLZ aside)
I don't watch porn because I don't like to support that industry.

I know it doesn't apply to all parts of the industry, but how many people involved in this are just people trading their dignity for next month's rent?

Playing devils advocate here... but most of the arguments i heard here (underage, exploitation, etc.) could be taken care of by watching only porn featuring "Milf" Pornstars who already made a career in the industry and earn ****loads of money eh? And as far as "exploitation" goes...   what about child labour in third world countries or worker exploitation (and consequently suicides) in China?

Exploitation is bad, no argument, but porn is hardly the only business where exploitation happens. If thats the only argument then I don't see how buying porn is any different than buying a Foxconn motherboard or an Ipod from a purely objective viewpoint - leaving the fact that we all consider what happens in porn is kinda naughty aside ;)

« Last Edit: April 02, 2011, 03:03:45 am by Mikes »

 

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Re: How do you view porn? (LOLZ aside)
Porn is sometimes cool, but my attention span says I get bored quickly, so I close it and start playing SGWP2.

When I was a kid it was funny, tho.
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Re: How do you view porn? (LOLZ aside)
That applies to so many jobs and people, it's not funny.
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And as far as "exploitation" goes...   what about child labour in third world countries or worker exploitation (and consequently suicides) in China?
Yeah, and I don't like it that it happens there either. 

But it's like having a legal multi-billion dollar sweatshop industry in the West.  Again, not saying it applies to everyone involved in the industry, but some people who do porn and then want to move on with their lives have that experience hanging over their heads (and it's not likely a pleasant one from their viewpoint), and they know that at any point, some guy or girl out there somewhere is going to be watching that moment and getting a thrill out of it.  Especially if it's on the internet, because once it's there, that **** stays there.

And while it doesn't apply to everyone who watches it, people do get addicted to pornography.  Their fantasies get more and more elaborate, and the need to live out those fantasies overwhelms, say, the need for a meaningful relationship.  And if they do ever get involved with a significant other and still have those fantasies, it can end up hurting that innocent person who neither watched nor participated in the porno.

It's like anything else you can get addicted to; if you let it get out of control, it can ruin not only your own life but others' as well.  People will watch porn no matter what I say, but I'm not going to have any part of it.
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Re: How do you view porn? (LOLZ aside)
Nuclear1 +1

It's an industry I would love to see wither and die.

 

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Re: How do you view porn? (LOLZ aside)
It's origins go a very very very long way back though...

 

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Re: How do you view porn? (LOLZ aside)
That applies to so many jobs and people, it's not funny.
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And as far as "exploitation" goes...   what about child labour in third world countries or worker exploitation (and consequently suicides) in China?
Yeah, and I don't like it that it happens there either. 

But it's like having a legal multi-billion dollar sweatshop industry in the West.  Again, not saying it applies to everyone involved in the industry, but some people who do porn and then want to move on with their lives have that experience hanging over their heads (and it's not likely a pleasant one from their viewpoint), and they know that at any point, some guy or girl out there somewhere is going to be watching that moment and getting a thrill out of it.  Especially if it's on the internet, because once it's there, that **** stays there.

And while it doesn't apply to everyone who watches it, people do get addicted to pornography.  Their fantasies get more and more elaborate, and the need to live out those fantasies overwhelms, say, the need for a meaningful relationship.  And if they do ever get involved with a significant other and still have those fantasies, it can end up hurting that innocent person who neither watched nor participated in the porno.

It's like anything else you can get addicted to; if you let it get out of control, it can ruin not only your own life but others' as well.  People will watch porn no matter what I say, but I'm not going to have any part of it.

Well devils advocate again: Some people eat too much chocolate/fastfood etc., grow fat (certified relationship killer) and even die from adiposa.
(Not even having mentioned what happens when you too many consume cigarettes or too much alcohol...  how about an alcoholic beating his children for hurting innocent bystanders?)

As far as the multibillion dollar corporations go... you could even argue that the American porn industry has "some" moral highground (we would definitely have to look at individual companies and practices here, as likely we both are right - and wrong - depending on the company) as it doesn t participate in aggressive offshoring and low wage country exploitation quite as much as some other companies do that you certainly already bought several products from. ;) Just look at the stickers of the components in your computer and we re likely to already find several culprits lol.

Also... keep in mind... while the "worst case" conditions may certainly be dire (but so they are in several other industries)... there is a rather significant difference: if you look for the most successful "sweatshop workers" you are still looking at a poor sods who can t afford anything...  if you however look at successful American Pornstars, you are looking at a millionaires who are able to afford an ultraexpensive lifestyle. The Sweatshop analogy doesn t really  fit... or rather focuses on a very specific segment of that industry while ignoring everything else.

In summary: Anything can be dangerous if it gets out of control, as you yourself said. Furthermore, there are also businesses that exploit humans in need just as much or even much more than the porn industry.

Addiction needs to be avoided and exploitation needs to be shut down no matter which industry it occurs in (and good luck with that, with even Apple being guilty and a huge percentage of other computer parts being manufactured in low wage countries as well)... so why does porn deserve special attention other than .... "but but but... it's naughty!!" ;)
« Last Edit: April 02, 2011, 11:49:32 am by Mikes »

 

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Re: How do you view porn? (LOLZ aside)
I see arguments against mainstream "big business" porn here. I'm surprised people still bother with it, it's pretty horrible. Most enjoyable porn tends toward amateur now.

Of course, I've never paid for any porn.
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Re: How do you view porn? (LOLZ aside)
Of course, I've never paid for any porn.

I've always wondered who does. There's such an incredible plethora of free (and legal, mind you) porn on the internet that I can't imagine why someone would bother wasting their time and money.

 

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Re: How do you view porn? (LOLZ aside)
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Re: How do you view porn? (LOLZ aside)
I've always wondered who does. There's such an incredible plethora of free (and legal, mind you) porn on the internet that I can't imagine why someone would bother wasting their time and money.

I do. I support the performers I like, the directors I like *shameless-friend-plug Tristan Taomabadabao* and the studios that go beyond the minimum legal level in regards to the health and safety of their employees. Plus, it is Awesome. As far as the exploitative argument goes, amateur porn of any stripe is more exploitative than big business productions, its not the 80s and 90s anymore.

Circling back to 'why people don't use free porn on the internet', ignorance it exists, lack of quality of content and fear of getting evil viruses that will steal your credit and mortgage your home from searching for it probably covers everyone out there, I'd think.
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Re: How do you view porn? (LOLZ aside)
but how many people involved in this are just people trading their dignity for next month's rent?

The irony of this statement is that porn is one of the few jobs (even over standard working the floor at retail) where this perception of "trading their dignity" could be entirely eliminated.
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Re: How do you view porn? (LOLZ aside)
I see arguments against mainstream "big business" porn here. I'm surprised people still bother with it, it's pretty horrible. Most enjoyable porn tends toward amateur now.

Of course, I've never paid for any porn.

same. industrialized porn is always the same. its never creative, everything is surgically altered or worn out to some disgusting degree. they enforce racial stereotypes (seriously try to find non-interracial fat girl porn). i think the best porn comes when 2 people in a relationship set up a couple of cameras on tripods and record some sex tape, then upload it to |redacted| for no monetary gain at all (do it for fun). or perhaps try to sell it on there own to make some extra cash. amateur porn always seems more natural and more realistic to me. and thats how i think porn should be.
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Re: How do you view porn? (LOLZ aside)
While some here say that pornography can increase one's sexual fantasies, and therefore eventually make him/her a complete pervert, the entire effect of porn on humanity is still debatable by sociologists, don't you think?

I mean, if you didn't have a computer, couldn't spend into an Internet Cafe/whatever, and you get horny (and lol perhaps masturbation is not enough), and you didn't have a sexual partner, what would you do? Go pay a whore or something...that's what some do.

Shouldn't you rather watch porn than do the said above?
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Re: How do you view porn? (LOLZ aside)
While some here say that pornography can increase one's sexual fantasies, and therefore eventually make him/her a complete pervert, the entire effect of porn on humanity is still debatable by sociologists, don't you think?

I mean, if you didn't have a computer, couldn't spend into an Internet Cafe/whatever, and you get horny (and lol perhaps masturbation is not enough), and you didn't have a sexual partner, what would you do? Go pay a whore or something...that's what some do.

Shouldn't you rather watch porn than do the said above?

Or, heaven forbid, exercise some self control. It's not that/i] hard.

 

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Re: How do you view porn? (LOLZ aside)
I mean, if you didn't have a computer, couldn't spend into an Internet Cafe/whatever, and you get horny (and lol perhaps masturbation is not enough), and you didn't have a sexual partner, what would you do? Go pay a whore or something...that's what some do.

Shouldn't you rather watch porn than do the said above?
If it gets to the point where you need porn to get off, or else you'd go find a hooker, then you honestly are at the point where you need to seek some psychiatric help.

I had to get help for my addiction.
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Axem -  I don't know what I'll do with my life now. Maybe I'll become a Nun, or take up Macrame. But where ever I go... I will remember you!
Axem - Sorry to post again when I said I was leaving for good, but something was nagging me. I don't want to say it in a way that shames the campaign but I think we can all agree it is actually.. incomplete. It is missing... Voice Acting.
Quanto - I for one would love to lend my beautiful singing voice into this wholesome project.
Nuclear1 - I want a duet.
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