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Offline Nuke

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Re: Osama bin Laden dead at US hands
its sad that all the information about the operation has come from the pakistan government and not from our own.

You haven't been watching the news very well. But then, you wouldn't. :P

i havent been watching the news but ive been reading articles. ones sourced from pakistani sources just seem to have more detailed information that ones sourced from the white house.
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Offline Kosh

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Apparently they knew multiple times where Bin Laden was, but let him go. Or it could've been a false positive in the chase for a guy that's been like a phantom, but it's still strange. Would have to research for specifics though - Mostly pointing out that there may be more provable to it all. Planting a seed and all.


Damn it! Command let Bosch Bin Laden escape!

What are you talking about?

They pulled the blockade, they gave us the wrong coordinates there's no other explanation.

Why would they let him go?

You tell me pilot, I'm informed on a need to know basis.
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« Last Edit: May 04, 2011, 12:10:32 am by Marcov »
With the rapid increase of FS fan-made campaigns, we're giving the GTVA a harder time with more violence and genocide.

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Re: Osama bin Laden dead at US hands
Seriously?  :banghead:

I just wanted to note I meant this as satire. It's like watching the conspiracy theorists surrounding the Julian Assange arrest =)

 

Offline Luis Dias

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That's why it's called mutual deterrence, brosephine.

Mutual deterrence really only works if one side is incapable of a preemptive knockout. This is not the case for Pakistan vs. an entity like NATO.

Regardless, Pakistan is too conveniently located to invade.

I should probably have said MAInjury. Pakistan is capable of a spasm that would deal geopolitically unacceptable damage, which is good enough for the modern world climate.

Exactly, I think this should be obvious to everyone. I don't understand the conversation about how NATO could crater 170 million people before they nuke every western city, therefore they would do it.

 

Offline NGTM-1R

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Exactly, I think this should be obvious to everyone. I don't understand the conversation about how NATO could crater 170 million people before they nuke every western city, therefore they would do it.

Congratulations, you've missed the point. NATO has the ability to preemptively and conventionally destroy all of Pakistan's nuclear weapons, thereby taking the nuclear option off the table. (And instead we get other WMDs maybe.)

However, as I said, Pakistan is too conveniently located to invade.
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I wonder what that model is called. Blacker Hawk?
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does look like the child of a #H-60 and a Raptor
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Looks like a utility version of the Comanche.
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http://translate.google.nl/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=nl&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=nl&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ad.nl%2Fad%2Fnl%2F3802%2FOsama-bin-Laden-gedood-in-Pakistan%2Farticle%2Fdetail%2F582260%2F2011%2F05%2F05%2FVS-gebruikten-geheime-heli-bij-aanval.dhtml

sounds a lot more plausible than suggestions that a made for purpose craft was used

Joshua's article basically states that the helo was probably a typical #H-60 modified with lower observability rotors, noise deflectors and perhaps a few panels to smoothen the outline to reduce radar returns.  Basically designed to reduce the enemy's time to react by a few minutes rather than in and out undetected, though a competent EW officer and radar tracking equipment on board would go a long way to preventing the Pakistani radar net finding them.
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Offline Kosh

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Looks like a utility version of the Comanche.

Secret prototype maybe? If so then what was it doing there?
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Offline The E

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Secret, yes.

Prototype, No. As others have said, what this probably is is an incremental upgrade to the standard Black Hawk.
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Offline NGTM-1R

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I wonder what that model is called. Blacker Hawk?

Knowing the naming scheme, it's a Pave (something).

The design actually seems to share a lot with the Speedhawk experimental compound helicopter...
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Knowing the naming scheme, it's a Pave (something).

When it's related to USAF helicopters, PAVE is just a reference to certain electronic systems onboard the helicopter. (Precision Avionics Vectoring Equipment)
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Black Hawk 2: Blacker Hawk?
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Offline NGTM-1R

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Re: Osama bin Laden dead at US hands
When it's related to USAF helicopters, PAVE is just a reference to certain electronic systems onboard the helicopter. (Precision Avionics Vectoring Equipment)

Yes, but they'll tack it on there like they do everything else they give to the special people. Unless it has something better.
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Offline General Battuta

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Re: Osama bin Laden dead at US hands
Knowing the naming scheme, it's a Pave (something).

When it's related to USAF helicopters, PAVE is just a reference to certain electronic systems onboard the helicopter. (Precision Avionics Vectoring Equipment)

So THAT'S where it comes from!

 

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Call it Airwolf and bring back the Eighties! ;)