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Offline Marcov

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Re: Favourite canon cargo containers.
If I remember correctly, the briefing texts say you only have 20-30 minutes to destroy the Lucifer before it ends up jumping out.

Admiral Shima says the Lucifer will reach Earth in 40 hours; so it may indeed take only several minutes to do an intersystem jump, but since the Lucifer is a big damn ship it might take a long while to recharge the subspace drives (just a theory).
With the rapid increase of FS fan-made campaigns, we're giving the GTVA a harder time with more violence and genocide.

~FreeSpace: The Battle of Endor (voice dub)~
Part 1/4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9K9-Y1JBTE
Part 2/4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtQanXDRAXM
Part 3/4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoBLKYt_oG0

Old (original) videos:
Part 1/4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1ygskaoUtE
Part 2/4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0uoPTksBlI

 

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Re: Favourite canon cargo containers.
Or else it was taking its good ol' time and cruising around for a while.

 

Offline Enigmatic Entity

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Re: Favourite canon cargo containers.
The funny thing about Freespace is, objects that look like real-life objects (such as cargo containers) are actually the sizes of buildings.

I think a big part of it is the textures - look at the lights on capital ships, we percieve these as one window, so the ship looks smaller and we seem to fly slower...

As for cargo containers, I love the methods of docking for some of the Shivan ones.
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Offline General Battuta

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Re: Favourite canon cargo containers.
FOV issues

 

Offline Marcov

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Re: Favourite canon cargo containers.
With the rapid increase of FS fan-made campaigns, we're giving the GTVA a harder time with more violence and genocide.

~FreeSpace: The Battle of Endor (voice dub)~
Part 1/4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9K9-Y1JBTE
Part 2/4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtQanXDRAXM
Part 3/4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoBLKYt_oG0

Old (original) videos:
Part 1/4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1ygskaoUtE
Part 2/4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0uoPTksBlI

 

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Offline General Battuta

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Re: Favourite canon cargo containers.
FOV issues

TSC 2

Length: 35 meters

What the **** does this have to do with FOV (the answer is nothing, your post makes no sense and has nothing to do with what I'm talking about)

The reason things in FreeSpace look smaller than they actually are is complicated, but FOV is a big part of it.

 

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Re: Favourite canon cargo containers.
The second main reason is very simple : no point of reference. We just have deep space around, quite hard to tell how big something is from that.
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Re: Favourite canon cargo containers.
The second main reason is very simple : no point of reference. We just have deep space around, quite hard to tell how big something is from that.
I believe from a nebula view they'll look bigger, because you're blind and you need something to see. I've not tested out how the Colossus looks in a nebula...

 

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Re: Favourite canon cargo containers.
"Realistic" FOV means that seeing a Loki at 200m probably fills your whole screen...

What's the smallest cargo container?
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Offline Commander Zane

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Re: Favourite canon cargo containers.
I might be taking this too literally, but how would something 1/10 the size of 200 meters fill the entire screen?

 

Offline Destiny

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I might be taking this too literally, but how would something 1/10 the size of 200 meters fill the entire screen?
FreeSpace meters, maybe. You don't even realize how big your fighter is because of FOV, until when you see a comparison of it and a Helios (a page or two back).

 

Offline Commander Zane

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Re: Favourite canon cargo containers.
I've known about the size difference between the Helios and Myrmidon, which is why I still say it's idiotic to try to pass the Myrmidon as being capable of fielding the Helios. So it does because it's what the Tables say, but for it to be done that way on purpose? I highly doubt it.

 

Offline ShivanSpS

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The Myrmidon and Helios, first i trought that the Myrmidon was intended to be a fighter/bomber, thats makes sence. But using Helios intead of Cyclops is just a easter egg.

Myrmidons carrying 2 Cyclops only on bigger secondary slot whould make perfectly sence. But thats was not posible in retails, neither is its now.

About the Elysium, its just intended to move light freight and carry people like a bus, nothing more. But i think that is missing espace pods, all FS ships are.

 

Offline Commander Zane

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Re: Favourite canon cargo containers.
The escape pods more or less are a Plot Device in the game. It would make sense that the larger ships carry and use them when needed, but instead they're used when the story deems it necessary.

 

Offline Enigmatic Entity

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Re: Favourite canon cargo containers.
I might be taking this too literally, but how would something 1/10 the size of 200 meters fill the entire screen?

Well, maybe not the entire screen, but most of it, if you have a small screen. Just imagine the area outside your screen is black, and think about how much you could see if you had this vision for your daily life. It's pretty small if you have a 17" monitor. :)
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Offline Marcov

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Re: Favourite canon cargo containers.
FOV issues

TSC 2

Length: 35 meters

What the **** does this have to do with FOV (the answer is nothing, your post makes no sense and has nothing to do with what I'm talking about)

The reason things in FreeSpace look smaller than they actually are is complicated, but FOV is a big part of it.

Why such an emotional reaction?

Anyway, I initially thought you were trying to say "no it's not that big it just looks big" but realized that you meant the other way around.
With the rapid increase of FS fan-made campaigns, we're giving the GTVA a harder time with more violence and genocide.

~FreeSpace: The Battle of Endor (voice dub)~
Part 1/4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9K9-Y1JBTE
Part 2/4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtQanXDRAXM
Part 3/4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoBLKYt_oG0

Old (original) videos:
Part 1/4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1ygskaoUtE
Part 2/4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0uoPTksBlI

 

Offline General Battuta

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Re: Favourite canon cargo containers.
I don't think there's any emotion there bro, I'm just making fun of you for not understanding what FOV is.

 

Offline Kolgena

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Re: Favourite canon cargo containers.
FOV is the main thing, but it also doesn't help that nothing in Freespace is really scaled to what it's supposed to be.

Valkyrie has a house-sized cockpit, as do many other fighters. Pegasus is probably the only ship with a cockpit similar in size to those on modern fighter jets. (Special mention also to Centaur, Ares)
Door on the Hermes is lol
Cutscene with elysium marine dump into the Cain (FS1) is probably wrong, though you could argue that the port they use is not the same one on the exterior of the transport (Marines compared to docking port)
Cargo container texture and model complexity makes the look like they could be people-sized, when they are actually office building size.
Windows on any destroyer. They're either ceiling-to-floor or span multiple floors. Except, they look as if they're supposed to be view ports half the height of a human.
A lot of destroyers suffer from lack of surface detail. Lots of ships look huge because of hull greeble to help give scale (eg, star wars destroyers). The orion (and even worse, the retail colossus) sport entire hectares of uninterrupted flat tiled hull. The tile texture also lacks tiny elements, so that doesn't help much.

The one time I remember that they get scale right is when they show the dead pilot beside his herc in the FS2 intro.
« Last Edit: June 16, 2011, 01:12:18 pm by Kolgena »

 

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Re: Favourite canon cargo containers.
In the future....all humans are 35 feet tall.
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