[Snail]

Funnier still is that they only appear to contain one thing at a time.

[Destiny]

Isn't it possible to put commas, then more words?

[BlueFlames]

Funnier still is that they only appear to contain one thing at a time.

Dravis was more of a whiney, emo git than he let on.  That journal was long.

[Pred the Penguin]

This thread is full of win!

As for cargo containers.... I loved the ones that I need to blow up.

[Colonol Dekker]

I have a portal related skin somewhere.... Axem is aware of this.



I must find it

[Commander Zane]

Funnier still is that they only appear to contain one thing at a time.

Well, they hold a lot of one thing at a time.
Unless you play Ridiculous and know of the TC-TRI holding more cargo containers.

[Drogoth]

No, I think an Elysium should carry at least a hundred if not several hundred individuals.

Look at IceyJone's Fall of Vasuda Prime cutscene. Just look at how huge those Chronos freighters are.

That's the point. Canonically, Elyisums for example are scripted to carry hundreds of individuals. But if you compare it a fighter (cockpit size) either we turn into giants when we pilot fighters, or there is simply a major size differential that is out of whack. Especially considering Elysiums need space for engines and sensors and all that jazz. I'm not saying they DON'T carry massive numbers of people, I was merely saying that the size relations between objects seems pretty out of whack. Or maybe everything else matches each-other and  just fighters don't. Seriously, didn't anyone ever wonder why Shivan fighters could be roughly the same size as ours, and yet Shivans are at least 5-6 times our size?

To be fair, even the smallest transport would have to be quite large to be realistic in comparison with the fighters, and I imagine that would be a pain to design (imagine trying to fly the length of an Orion if things were to scale like that haha), but all I'm saying is yeah.. it should be bigger

[Marcov]

The Elyisum is a transport, not a fighter.

Sure, it has engines, but it can't run on speeds over 100 m/s, shoot 6 guns of Kayser powahh, hammer tempests, and have shields.

If you stripped out most of the guns, the shields, and take out most of the engines on a Myrmidon for example, it might be able to carry a dozen or so.

Shivans, on the other hand, seem to be the fighters themselves - I forgot where I read it, but I think they're "integrated" with the fighter's hull, thus stripping out the need for a cockpit.

[Mars]

The Elyisum is a transport, not a fighter.

Sure, it has engines, but it can't run on speeds over 100 m/s, shoot 6 guns of Kayser powahh, hammer tempests, and have shields.

If you stripped out most of the guns, the shields, and take out most of the engines on a Myrmidon for example, it might be able to carry a dozen or so.

Shivans, on the other hand, seem to be the fighters themselves - I forgot where I read it, but I think they're "integrated" with the fighter's hull, thus stripping out the need for a cockpit.

From nowhere canon

[666maslo666]

Shivans, on the other hand, seem to be the fighters themselves - I forgot where I read it, but I think they're "integrated" with the fighter's hull, thus stripping out the need for a cockpit.

Was there a shivan in the captured Dragon? I believe shivan fighters are just robotic drones.

[Hades]

Do you think that's only capable of handling 8 people?

Yes. Or close to it.

[Marcov]

Haven't you seen the picture?!

It's pretty big!!!

Ask yourself; why does the bus support tens of individuals, why not one? It has engines, why can it support many people!

Why should a bus carry more people than something as big as a school?

[Commander Zane]

Engines for air/spacecraft are larger and more complex than a bus's engine.

[Drogoth]

Besides. Look at the simple COCKPIT size of an Apollo. That's huge. No where near a 100 of those can fit in an Elysium, and not only does an Elysium have to fit sub systems of all threads, but the turret as well as actual living quarters, corridors, a bridge, etc. I mean, let's get serious, the people aren't packed in there like sardines.

The size differential between any ship, Elysium or otherwise, when compared to a fighter simply doesn't make sense. I agree that as far as the game is concerned, Elysiums carry hundreds of people. All I'm saying is, that the size difference between fighters and any other type of ship simply doesn't make sense.

[Pred the Penguin]

I don't think anyone's arguing that point. Tons of things in FS don't make sense.

[Destiny]

I don't think anyone's arguing that point. Tons of things in FS don't make sense.

Like this.


(Go HTL that Helios!)

[General Battuta]

Shivans, on the other hand, seem to be the fighters themselves - I forgot where I read it, but I think they're "integrated" with the fighter's hull, thus stripping out the need for a cockpit.

Was there a shivan in the captured Dragon? I believe shivan fighters are just robotic drones.

No they mos def have pilots.

[Commander Zane]

The Helios is HTL'd.

[NGTM-1R]

Besides. Look at the simple COCKPIT size of an Apollo. That's huge. No where near a 100 of those can fit in an Elysium, and not only does an Elysium have to fit sub systems of all threads, but the turret as well as actual living quarters, corridors, a bridge, etc. I mean, let's get serious, the people aren't packed in there like sardines.

Assuming the external cockpit bubble is just the pilot. Have you even looked at a military aircraft? Most of the time the pilot actually chews up relatively little space inside the cockpit, because room to move is actually a critical requirement in a good dogfighter.

I mean, there's craploads of things we can say are wrong with FS fighters, but this one is incredibly thin.

(I'd start with poor rear visibility, myself.)

[Rodo]

boy, that was INSIDE? hehe