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Offline Snail

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Re: Favourite canon cargo containers.
In which case you call for a repair transport anid can be on your merry way in 10 minutes.

 

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Re: Favourite canon cargo containers.
Haven't we been doing that for the past ten or so years? Hehe.

 

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Re: Favourite canon cargo containers.
Yeah if it only takes a couple minutes or hours to travel between star systems that takes away a lot of the atmosphere of the setting if you ask me.
But...isn't that exactly what we've seen in pretty much every canon mission? :p We know for a fact that intrasystem jumps seem to take a matter of seconds, and ships only seem to need to recharge their jump drives after a node traversal on the order of minutes.  The concept of mucking about for weeks, or even days, to travel between systems doesn't seem to exist in the FS-verse.

 

Offline Colonol Dekker

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Re: Favourite canon cargo containers.
Well roughly how long did it take the Lucifer to traverse the coridoor at the end of FS? (assuming you dont blow it up, that should be the canon travel time. Gameplay reasons omitted) There's your baseline to calibrate other subspace travel times by.
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Offline Dragon

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Re: Favourite canon cargo containers.
Note, that's a Shivan supership in one node. We don't know how travel time varies between nodes and/or ship classes.

 

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Re: Favourite canon cargo containers.
Its speed was constant, thus measurable. Besides subspace apparently negates its only unique bility.
Campaigns I've added my distinctiveness to-
- Blue Planet: Battle Captains
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-Earth Brakiri war
-TBP Fortune Hunters (I think?)
-TBP Relic
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-Uncharted Territory
-Vassagos Dirge
-War Machine
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Re: Favourite canon cargo containers.
Well roughly how long did it take the Lucifer to traverse the coridoor at the end of FS? (assuming you dont blow it up, that should be the canon travel time. Gameplay reasons omitted) There's your baseline to calibrate other subspace travel times by.
We never see anything relating to how long time passed between the time you enter the node in the second-to-last mission and the briefing in the last mission. For all we know, it could have been a day or so that passed and you're just finally starting to catch up with the Lucifer.

Another possibility is from a gameplay perspective, no one would want to play a mission that takes the same amount of time that it may (or may not) take in fluff. i.e., if subspace travel between the systems took days, or even weeks, no one would play a mission that long.

There's also the chance, however unlikely, that Sol and Delta Serpentis are really, really close together.
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Offline Snail

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Re: Favourite canon cargo containers.
I really hate this cop-out argument, but I'm going to use it anyway: Gameplay and universe segregation. Not everything can be portrayed in-game in a way that is both realistic and enjoyable.

 

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Re: Favourite canon cargo containers.
Well roughly how long did it take the Lucifer to traverse the coridoor at the end of FS? (assuming you dont blow it up, that should be the canon travel time. Gameplay reasons omitted) There's your baseline to calibrate other subspace travel times by.
We never see anything relating to how long time passed between the time you enter the node in the second-to-last mission and the briefing in the last mission. For all we know, it could have been a day or so that passed and you're just finally starting to catch up with the Lucifer.

Another possibility is from a gameplay perspective, no one would want to play a mission that takes the same amount of time that it may (or may not) take in fluff. i.e., if subspace travel between the systems took days, or even weeks, no one would play a mission that long.

There's also the chance, however unlikely, that Sol and Delta Serpentis are really, really close together.

The only baseline we have is that the Lucifer will reach Earth within 40 hours of the events of 'Clash of the Titans'.

 

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Re: Favourite canon cargo containers.
I refer everyone here to Command's lines in Apocalpyse (last mission of FS2) when he very clearly says that the ships arrive on the other side of the node instantaneously.

Whatever time passes in the subspace corridor, if any, it must therefore be subjective to the traveller.

 

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Re: Favourite canon cargo containers.
I refer everyone here to Command's lines in Apocalpyse (last mission of FS2) when he very clearly says that the ships arrive on the other side of the node instantaneously.

Whatever time passes in the subspace corridor, if any, it must therefore be subjective to the traveller.

Then how the hell does one manage to catch the Lucifer while in subspace?
if node travel was instantaneous, the entire plan to stop the Lucifer -while in subspace- just plain doesn't work.
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Offline General Battuta

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Re: Favourite canon cargo containers.
I refer everyone here to Command's lines in Apocalpyse (last mission of FS2) when he very clearly says that the ships arrive on the other side of the node instantaneously.

Whatever time passes in the subspace corridor, if any, it must therefore be subjective to the traveller.

No that's ridiculous and should be ignored. He was clearly just using shorthand for 'got the **** out of Capella'. That instantaneous travel **** either needs to be spackled away or just straight up retconned, it is dumb.

 

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Re: Favourite canon cargo containers.
I refer everyone here to Command's lines in Apocalpyse (last mission of FS2) when he very clearly says that the ships arrive on the other side of the node instantaneously.

Whatever time passes in the subspace corridor, if any, it must therefore be subjective to the traveller.
You might try posting those lines, bro. I sure as hell can't check it out myself and the wiki for missions is rather useless for stuff like this.

I refer everyone here to Command's lines in Apocalpyse (last mission of FS2) when he very clearly says that the ships arrive on the other side of the node instantaneously.

Whatever time passes in the subspace corridor, if any, it must therefore be subjective to the traveller.

No that's ridiculous and should be ignored. He was clearly just using shorthand for 'got the **** out of Capella'. That instantaneous travel **** either needs to be spackled away or just straight up retconned, it is dumb.
Agreed.
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<batwota> wouldn’t that mean that it’s prepared to kiss your ass if you flank it :p
<batwota> wow
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Offline Scotty

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Re: Favourite canon cargo containers.
Quote from: Command
Lambda reports all four [or all remaining] transports have reached the Vega system.

All civilians on board the Omega transport have reached the Vega system safely.

However, most of the others do say "departed Capella" which I was not aware of.

 

Offline General Battuta

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Re: Favourite canon cargo containers.
Quote from: Command
Lambda reports all four [or all remaining] transports have reached the Vega system.

All civilians on board the Omega transport have reached the Vega system safely.

However, most of the others do say "departed Capella" which I was not aware of.

I just take it to assume that he means 'reached Vega system' as 'are in the bag for Vega and en route'. Any other reading is just like, what.

 

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Quote from: Command
Lambda reports all four [or all remaining] transports have reached the Vega system.

All civilians on board the Omega transport have reached the Vega system safely.

However, most of the others do say "departed Capella" which I was not aware of.

I just take it to assume that he means 'reached Vega system' as 'are in the bag for Vega and en route'. Any other reading is just like, what.

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Re: Favourite canon cargo containers.
Command's just assuming that no cataclysmic subspace accident will occur which claims the livelihood of all the transports.
A reasonable assumption to make.
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Re: Favourite canon cargo containers.
Maybe they carried lots of containers full of subspace afterburner fuel for themselves or something, eh.

 

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Re: Favourite canon cargo containers.
Maybe they carried lots of containers full of subspace afterburner fuel for themselves or something, eh.

We have no idea if subjective movement in subspace actually matters, to be honest. The Lucifer's death cutscene sorta suggests it doesn't.
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Considering whilst attacking the Lucifer you had a time limit before it arrived at Sol, it would make for a very confusing bit of physics if travel in Subspace was instant from the perspective of those outside it.