[nomad0305]

Hi everyone, although this is my first real post on this forum ..I have been a lurker & a frequent visitor here to get my daily dose of BP Verse !!  I really wanted to congratulate the entire BP Team for making the greatest game+story ever !! I have played WiH2 about 20 times till now & still the ending makes me cringe from the inside ! The fact that this forums is filled with people bickering over the smallest things/plot points is testament to the fact that you guys have hit the nail square on the head !!! ( I havent seen debates over story lines with such passion of any other game !)  JOB WELL DONE !! My humble hats off to you !!!

Now with that out of the way :  .. I was wondering what all your opinion is about the events post delenda est...because I read somewhere here that the Solaris, Eris, Toutatis , Hood, Atruse (spell  ), Serker Corvette team were all engaged in battle during the events near Saturn ..and the fact that one of the Devs said something to the effect of 'there is nothing such as in inconclusive engagement'

So if we see the cutscene/ending of BP:WiH 1  where both the Fed & Tev forces are shown ..we see the Solaris parked at earth , Toutatis  at Mars & Eris with her flotilla of ships likewise the Hood,Toutatis, Carthage is shown from the Tev side

Missing conspicuously is the ... Serker Corvette team   ..does that mean the Serker menace has been finally wiped for good this time !! while the Solaris, Eris, Toutatis , Steele & Hood survived their engagements ??


P.S : Bring out BP:WiH2 already  ..i'm ready to pay for it!

[The E]

Smilies are best used in moderation.

That being said, no, Serkr is definitely not wiped out.

[nomad0305]

So that would mean no major losses were taken by either side in all other major engagements at the time (apart from the loss of 3 Karuna frigates & 2 Sanctus cruisers of the Wargods)

[The E]

And a few Corvettes and Cruisers on the GTVA side, depending on player actions.

[Deadly in a Shadow]

Well, I think there's a lot of fighter/bomber casualities and damaged capships on both sides.

[MatthTheGeek]

Well, for one, the Carthage's whole fighter complement is down. Will take a while to replace.

[crizza]

Do you really think it will take a while?
We are talking about Steele, who threw the fighter complement into the meat grinder, while most likely another logistic ship is inbound with a replacement complement...

[nomad0305]

I agree .. i dont think we're at a stage where dwindling fighters/bombers are an issue for the TEV's yet.

But for the Fed's its just the opposite ...i mean Calder/Netreba gambled EVERYTHING (including their own command carriers) into this operation, so they must have already lost quite a few of the increasingly scare Uriel gunships...only to get totally owned by Steele's gambit.

I just keep drawing blanks thinking "What would I do now if I were in Calder/Netreba's shoes?" I would probably be forced to think that Admiral Bryne was right all along..Man I hate Steele 

[Deadly in a Shadow]

I agree .. i dont think we're at a stage where dwindling fighters/bombers are an issue for the TEV's yet.

But for the Fed's its just the opposite ...i mean Calder/Netreba gambled EVERYTHING (including their own command carriers) into this operation, so they must have already lost quite a few of the increasingly scare Uriel gunships...only to get totally owned by Steele's gambit.

I just keep drawing blanks thinking "What would I do now if I were in Calder/Netreba's shoes?" ..Man I hate Steele 

Keep fighting and hoping that Byrne isn't just the crouching moron hidden badass in R2 anymore.

[-Norbert-]

As far as I gathered they too believe in whatever secret project Byrne has going, they just don't believe that they can hold out untill it is finished, if they don't disrupt the GTVAs preparations.
The whole point of the Wargods earlier operations was to slow down the GTVA buildup and make sure the inevitable attack on Earth is delayed as much as possible, so the project has time to get completed.

[The E]

At the end of WiH, the war is effectively lost, with both 2FM and 3JRF being reduced to a shadow of their former selves. Supporting Byrne and whatever his endgame plan is is pretty much the only option they have.

[Killer Whale]

Mars as well? I didn't notice 2nd fleet taking a pounding...

[crizza]

I guess two frigates and the cruisers belonged to the 2nd fleet mars.

[Mars]

They lost a bunch of cruisers too IIRC, throughout the campagin (as in, most of them)

I'd need to double check that though

EDIT:

Looks like I was wrong, although maybe all those cruisers that are unaccounted for?

UEF Potential losses

Jovian Rim Fleet
FA 3311 Ranvir - Narayana class
FG 3101 Nelson - Karuna class
FG 3102 Cormorant - Karuna class
FG 3103 Katana - Karuna class
FG 3104 Altan Orde - Karuna class
FG 3107 Akula - Karuna class
FG 3108 Rhineland - Karuna class


CA 32XX Dea Nemetona - Sanctus class
CA 32XX St Vincent - Sanctus class
CA 32XX Dea Soucanna - Sanctus class
CA 32XX Sabaragamuwa - Sanctus class
CA 3240 Ironhide - Sanctus class
CA 3241 Suffron - Sanctus class
CA 3242 Dea Bricta - Sanctus class
CA 3243 Auxerre - Sanctus class


Second Fleet Mars
FG 2102 Yangtze - Karuna class


CA 2231 Dea Icaunis - Sanctus class
CA 2233 Kyoto - Sanctus class
CA 2234 Insuperable - Sanctus class

Home Fleet
CA 1225 Vilnius - Sanctus class

Unknown

X3XX - Narayana class
X3XX - Narayana class
X1XX - Karuna class
X1XX - Karuna class
X2XX - Sanctus class
X2XX - Sanctus class
X2XX - Sanctus class
X2XX - Sanctus class

[Drogoth]

Yeah screw those UEF newbs! Go Go Steele! Long live the Tevs!

But maybe i read the name wrong but wasn't one of the Serkr Corvettes cruising next to the Imperiuse when they ambushed the Wargods? I'd hit up the mission to check right now, except that i'm in a game of League of Legends and my team is already pissed that I'm half afk reading the forums on my other screen xD

Also the GTVA can just rotate another battlegroup in if losses were to heavy, withdraw the current for repairs. The UEF don't have that luxury.

[The E]

Also the GTVA can just rotate another battlegroup in if losses were to heavy, withdraw the current for repairs. The UEF don't have that luxury.

Nope, they can't. Not without making an already complicated logistical and political issue even more complicated.

[Drogoth]

Also the GTVA can just rotate another battlegroup in if losses were to heavy, withdraw the current for repairs. The UEF don't have that luxury.

Nope, they can't. Not without making an already complicated logistical and political issue even more complicated.

Ok fair enough

Also it seems that i dont have a pilot file able to currently access Delenda Est, (restarted campaign a bit ago), can anyone else confirm that one of the corvettes escorting the Imperiuse was part of Serkr? I may have just read the name wrong but I was pretty sure

[crizza]

Simply look up the vp-files.
It was the Hydra, part of Serkr indeed.

[LordPomposity]

No, it was the Hydra#. Not sure where the real Hydra was at the time.

[niffiwan]

At the end of WiH, the war is effectively lost, with both 2FM and 3JRF being reduced to a shadow of their former selves. Supporting Byrne and whatever his endgame plan is is pretty much the only option they have.

Makes me wonder what black-ops trickery the Laporte & the Fedayeen (sp) are going to get up to in WiH part 2...