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Offline Scotty

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Re: A thought on Star Wars weaponry.
Before, during the reign of the Clone Emperor.

 

Offline Firstdragon34

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If there was a superweapon that I would use, I would use the Star Forge. The power of the sun in your hands. A factory that could make an unlimited army!
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* IronBeer bristles with effort at not bringing up the Force in a SW weaponry thread.
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Offline Alex Heartnet

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Re: A thought on Star Wars weaponry.
I propose a superweapon that mines out entire planets - inhabited or otherwise - and uses the resources to manufacture other ships.  Unlike other superweapons, this actually gives you an abundance of resources to build stuff after you destroy a planet.  And if there are currently no planets in need of destroying, it can be put to use mining out uninhabited planets for more ships!  Just think of how many star destroyers can be made out of an entire planet!

Would be even better if it was capable of constructing a copy of itself with said resources.  By the time the pesky rebels figure out how to blow up one you will have multiple spares.

Star Forge?  Bah.  Planets have a far greater density.

EDIT;  Just realised this is a really good way to prevent rebellions.  It's one thing to get threatened to have your planet turned into various nanoparticles.  It's quite another to be threatened with having your planet turned into yet more ships for the invaders.  Either outcome benefits the invaders, so suicidal displays of resistance just to spite the invaders are far less likely.
« Last Edit: September 14, 2011, 09:22:37 pm by Alex Heartnet »

 
Re: A thought on Star Wars weaponry.
If I recall correctly, The Empire already did something similar with the World Devastators.
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Offline Scotty

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Re: A thought on Star Wars weaponry.
Almost identical, actually.  Only difference is that they couldn't manufacture capital ships, just fighters.

 

Offline Firstdragon34

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Your talking about skipping to other solar systems while you can build several factories over stars! You have ten billion years of the star's lifetime!
It is best to put these factories in the Unknown Regions first, before you conquer.  :)
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Offline Alex Heartnet

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Re: A thought on Star Wars weaponry.
And just keep a few in reserve, hidden somewhere in deep space within a systemwide nebula or something, just waiting to be re-activated just in case something goes horribly wrong and the rebels get the better of you somehow.

Assuming a competant commander, there really should be no way to destroy all of these factories.  There will always be at least a few in reserve.

Wait.  Instead of constantly designing all new superweapons, the Empire should really be refining the ones they already made!  Especially since they know exatly why superweapon v1.0 was stopped, so now they can redesign it so that method won't work and deploy superweapon v1.1
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Offline Scotty

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Re: A thought on Star Wars weaponry.
Well, the Empire, right or wrong, decided that approach didn't work too well after they lost the Death Star.  Twice.

 

Offline Firstdragon34

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I wonder what the EU will bring out next? The options of superweapons has probably run dry. Unless you want to build a superweapon that can strike a target from across the universe and destroy entire galaxies.

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Offline Alex Heartnet

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Re: A thought on Star Wars weaponry.
The death star was  just an unreasonably colossal undertaking, done by engineers who were complete idiots (Oh there's no weakness OLOL).  Surely there are far more cost effective ways to destroy a planet.  The cost of rebuilding Death Star 1.1 is just too huge...

Death Star is dramatic?  Big yes.  But I don't see it being able to do anything that a fleet of star destroyers couldn't.

 

Offline Firstdragon34

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A fleet of Star Destroyers would render planets dead, but I don't think they would destroy them. Han pointed that out in IV.
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Offline Mefustae

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The death star was  just an unreasonably colossal undertaking, done by engineers who were complete idiots (Oh there's no weakness OLOL).  Surely there are far more cost effective ways to destroy a planet.  The cost of rebuilding Death Star 1.1 is just too huge...

Death Star is dramatic?  Big yes.  But I don't see it being able to do anything that a fleet of star destroyers couldn't.

Obviously. The Death Star is horribly inefficient, logistical support would be a nightmare, and a single weakness could completely compromise the battlestation. The far more logical approach would be to construct several fleets worth of far more flexible and useful fleet assets, for probably only a fraction of the cost of a single Death Star. Granted, it was powerful, and the Death Star II had no major weakness whatsoever (hence the do-or-die attack in RotJ). But when you get right down to it, the Empire would have been crazy to think the Death Stars were efficient ways to wage war.

But the Death Star was never about efficiency. It was about terror and intimidation. Both Death Stars were constructed as a direct response to the Tarkin Doctrine. Simply; that the presence of stupefyingly powerful tools in the Empire's arsenal would incite such terror in its citizenry, that all rebellion would cease. Grand Moff Tarken conceived of the idea, and that was why he was in charge of the Death Star project, as well as all the other superweapon programs operating out the Maw facility. The Death Star would never have been used to actively wage war, and honestly would never even have fired its main gun all that often. It was built so that the Emperor could point to it and say "DO NOT **** WITH US."

That said, as I belive Han pointed out during the Yuuzhan Vong War; a Death Star or two would've come in bloody handy during that conflict.

 

Offline Firstdragon34

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Like the quote says from Episode IV "This battlestation is the ultimate weapon in the universe!" Which was pwned by Vader saying, "Nothing will compare to the power of the Force," Am I right? Think Darth Nihilus.
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Offline NGTM-1R

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Re: A thought on Star Wars weaponry.
A fleet of Star Destroyers would render planets dead, but I don't think they would destroy them. Han pointed that out in IV.

No strategic or tactical difference.

Save that it's a whole ****load harder to kill the fleet of Star Destroyers.

There were ways you could have made the Death Star more practical and lost none of the psychological advantages (Pulsar Station from Isard's Revenge comes to mind) so really, the whole project seems like they needed a place to store Tarkin's and later the Emperor's ego rather than a well-considered plan.
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Offline BloodEagle

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Re: A thought on Star Wars weaponry.
Plus, the Death Star was totally vulnerable to hacking.  :P

 

Offline Mefustae

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Re: A thought on Star Wars weaponry.
Plus, the Death Star was totally vulnerable to hacking.  :P

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Offline Firstdragon34

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If I were to write about the Empire, I'd make them actually tough instead of being wimpy.
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Offline Scotty

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You really need to read some of the novels before you come in and make a statement like that.

 

Offline Firstdragon34

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I have read a couple like the Thrawn Trilogy and the Children of the Jedi, but I have more interested in the Yuuzhan Vong war. What is the series that features Centre Point Station and the Galaxy Gun?
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