[Scotty]

Even if the UEF space forces encompassed nearly 20 million shipboard and support personnel, laying every single one of them off (which would be idiotic on literally a system wide level) would still only be a fraction of a percent of the system population.  Hell, that's barely more than a quarter of a percent of today's population.

[CT27]

And keeping all the former UEF military people unemployed and depressed would be bad for another reason:  they'd be the ones who would most likely to be capable of leading some sort of insurrection in Sol.

[-Norbert-]

On the other hand, if they are out of the fleet, their options for sabotage are a lot more limited than on board of the military ships and stations. Allthough one could argue that the GTVA might rather have them, where they can keep an eye on them.
Split them apart into small groups, spread around the fleet under discreet surveillance, rather than allowing them to go to ground and form large resistance cells, hidden well in their own hometerretory.

A delicate balancing act without an obvious right or wrong way awaits the GTVA one way or the other, if they manage to take controll of Sol.


... I just had a rather outlandish though. Very unlikely but mabe worth a discussion.
What about letting the Vasudans police the Sol system after the war, to avoid anti GTA activism? You know... keeping the factions that killed each other seperated for the time being and letting the neutral faction act as a buffer.

[Drogoth]

Trust the zods?

BLASPHEMY!

[QuakeIV]

Or they could just wipe out the entire UEF space based military even if they try to surrender.  Nobody would know better if the whole military is dead.  There, problem solved.

Its not like there is any practical value in leaving the UEF military alive.  They are effectively angry people with military training.

[Klaustrophobia]

there's no practical value in NOT committing mass murder??? 

[General Battuta]

They're the people in the UEF most accustomed to taking orders and most practiced in policing exoplanetary traffic. Those are both useful attributes.

[NGTM-1R]

Or they could just wipe out the entire UEF space based military even if they try to surrender.  Nobody would know better if the whole military is dead.  There, problem solved.

If you really want to make the whole Solar System ungovernable when the inevitable leak occurs in two weeks.

[Scotty]

Uh, everybody with a single relative in the military would know.  It would leak faster than any other secret in history.

[NGTM-1R]

I mean, just as a logistical effort, killing that many people is hard. It takes a lot of people. One of 'em's going to talk. Somebody's going to get away. There will be problems real fast.

[CT27]

... I just had a rather outlandish though. Very unlikely but mabe worth a discussion.
What about letting the Vasudans police the Sol system after the war, to avoid anti GTA activism? You know... keeping the factions that killed each other seperated for the time being and letting the neutral faction act as a buffer.

Sounds like a good idea.  If I was in the GTVA, I would not be opposed to bringing in some Vasudans to help police Sol.  However, as of right now I'd say the Vasudans are slightly less than neutral.

[Aardwolf]

Seriously, did they miss the whole "great destroyers" memo?

There is a difference between not getting the momo and not believing it.
I think there is sufficient doubt about the source of the memo (both in terms of truthfullness and motive) to make the message itself dubious enough to not just swollow it as fact without further prove.

Yeah yeah, unreliable narrator. Did you not read the rest of my post?

There are 3 people who it's established "got the memo": FS1 Alpha, Bei Jr., and Bei Sr., and of those three people (unless I'm mis-remembering the last two missions of AoA), none of them relayed it to the GTVA.

[qwadtep]

Uh, everybody with a single relative in the military would know.  It would leak faster than any other secret in history.

Say they're working on a project. A secret one, perhaps.

[QuakeIV]

Every single relative would telepathically know that their relatives died while trying to surrender instead of dying fighting.

I'll admit it would look weird if not even one ship survived and it was a kinda dumb idea, but people would have to guess as opposed to somehow KNOWING.

They're the people in the UEF most accustomed to taking orders and most practiced in policing exoplanetary traffic. Those are both useful attributes.

Why would they be given equipment to police the system?  Its not like they would just suddenly happily work for the GTVA.

[-Norbert-]

... I just had a rather outlandish though. Very unlikely but mabe worth a discussion.
What about letting the Vasudans police the Sol system after the war, to avoid anti GTA activism? You know... keeping the factions that killed each other seperated for the time being and letting the neutral faction act as a buffer.

Sounds like a good idea.  If I was in the GTVA, I would not be opposed to bringing in some Vasudans to help police Sol.  However, as of right now I'd say the Vasudans are slightly less than neutral.

Sure they are no long completely neutral, but as of yet, they didn't kill a single UEF citizen (military or civilian). In my opinion the death of civilians (Luna bombing, Earth blitz, destruction of any freighter and transport that tried to flee rather than surrender) are going to be far more of a problem than the invasion and fight of military against military, when it comes to maintaining the peace.
I imagine it's hard to trust someone to police the system when it's possible that the person pulled the trigger that launched a nuclear weapon at one or your cities.

I highly doubt that Steele, who won them the war, will be punished (unless the truth about his gamble with the Vasudans comes out), but I can't help to wonder what fate the GTVA has in store for Severanti...

[CT27]

Is it possible Severanti might have an "accident"?

[The E]

I highly doubt that Steele, who won them the war, will be punished (unless the truth about his gamble with the Vasudans comes out), but I can't help to wonder what fate the GTVA has in store for Severanti...

Admiral Cyrus Severanti, Commanding Officer of the GTVA 13th Battlegroup, was the first Theater Commander in Sol. Originally deployed to Sol as backup for Admiral Bei's 14th BG, Admiral Severanti found himself in a difficult situation. With the most powerful ships in the fleet unavailable, and with considerable confusion on all levels of his command structure, he nonetheless pursued the mandate given to him by the GTVA Security Council with skill and determination.

Unfortunately, his slow, methodical, by-the-book approach was countered at every turn by Admiral Calder and the Jovian Rim Fleet, who used Admiral Calders' understanding of the GTVA psyche and the system-wide subspace surveillance net to always stay ahead of the Alliance fleet. After 18 months of uphill battles, Severanti was finally in a position to mount a major assault against 3rd Fleet positions, only to have his thunder stolen by the Security Council's decision to deploy the 15th Battlegroup under Admiral Steele in support of the 13th.

Severanti's subsequent actions, taken rashly in an effort to reassert his authority in Sol, lead straight to his flagship being ambushed by a UEF Frigate division, and he had to withdraw to Delta Serpentis to effect the necessary repairs, where he was reassigned to the GTVA Space War College to head the Advanced Tactics Course.

[crizza]

Give the UEF new ships to police the system, install a kill switch for reactor shutdown and in case they decide to fight again, let them die in a ship without lifesupport...

[The E]

Give the UEF new ships to police the system, install a kill switch for reactor shutdown and in case they decide to fight again, let them die in a ship without lifesupport...

Assumes terminal stupidity among UEF forces, and a total takeover of all Sol-based ship manufacturing capability.

[NGTM-1R]

and a total takeover of all Sol-based ship manufacturing capability.

They would be fools not to.