[Klaustrophobia]

i'm not sure how much this plays into it, but there's also the point that japan was the initial aggressor.  THEY were the ones trying to do the territory grab, and got beat back from it.  the opposite of the GTVA-UEF situation.

[CT27]

Another example might be the US and UK.  Hostile with each other for quite a while, but close friends today.

[Alex Heartnet]

Come to think of it, the Fadayyen not might be working on a superweapon at all.  Too obvious of a plot point, and doesn't fit such a shadowy organization.  (GTI Hades aside, but the GTI had a huge head start on the construction of their superweapon)  In fact, some of the dialogue from the mission 'The Plunder' suggests that the UEF aren't stupid enough willing to put all their eggs into one basket like that.

All those resources are probably going towards something more subtle.  Only thing I can think of that would require warships to continuously disappear and the resources of an entire logistics ship would be some sort of systemwide construction project somehow related to the Vishnans and/or Shivans.  Such an undertaking would certainly require warships to fend off the inevitable raids, and the resources of a logistics ship.

This is going to tie in horribly with the Solis Lacus camps, isn't it?

It might be worth a playthrough with the mindset that things might be happening behind the scenes, and that the main character is an unreliable narrator.  It's quite possible that Steele isn't the only grand chessmaster around.

Oh, and I am starting to think that the Fadayyen might be the Sol portion of what was once the GTI.

[Legate Damar]

They are building a subspace portal to call in the Shivans... because they figure if they can't have the Sol system, no one can.

[qwadtep]

Fedayeen aren't GTI, they're a separate organization set up by the Ubuntu party. The GTA in Sol collapsed after the destruction of the node.

I wouldn't be surprised if they were doing some sort of creepy Nagari experiments on POWs, but they'd probably be assigned to secret camps, not one that standard Fleet pilots would bring up in conversation like Solis Lacus... 'sides which, Solis Lacus is on Mars.

I doubt the assets consumed by the Secret Project are being used to fend off Shivans in Sol. I do suspect that those assets are being used to fend off the GTVA in a hidden, perhaps darker side of the war we've yet to see.

[LordPomposity]

My guess on the secret project: I think the Fedayeen are working on a way to remove ship-invulnerable, ship-guardian, ship-guardian-threshold, and ship-subsys-guardian-threshold from the game engine. If they don't do that, Byrne could be building the Icanus and the UEF still wouldn't have a chance.

[Legate Damar]

Maybe they are attempting to replicate the Sathanas' subspace field and supernova the sun.

(While we're on crazy theories)

[Crybertrance]

Or maybe they are mashing up all the ships into a giant mega-ship...Guess we'll never know (until R2 comes out, that is)...

[-Norbert-]

Or they are building a big cannon that shoots little bullets filled with culture, like the Advent in Sins of a Solar Empire have. And then they shoot the Ubuntu ideology at the unsuspecting GTVA terretories.
The GTVA still wins in Sol, but when they come back home, instead of a victory parade they only find their whole terretory converted to Ubuntu!

[CT27]

Or they are building a big cannon that shoots little bullets filled with culture, like the Advent in Sins of a Solar Empire have. And then they shoot the Ubuntu ideology at the unsuspecting GTVA terretories.
The GTVA still wins in Sol, but when they come back home, instead of a victory parade they only find their whole terretory converted to Ubuntu!

So, then...Sol would turn into an expansionistic militarist regime and then the rest of the GTVA would become more peaceful?  What you're saying is BP is then a prequel to Inferno?

[DireWolf]

Or they are building a big cannon that shoots little bullets filled with culture, like the Advent in Sins of a Solar Empire have. And then they shoot the Ubuntu ideology at the unsuspecting GTVA terretories.
The GTVA still wins in Sol, but when they come back home, instead of a victory parade they only find their whole terretory converted to Ubuntu!

So, then...Sol would turn into an expansionistic militarist regime and then the rest of the GTVA would become more peaceful?  What you're saying is BP is then a prequel to Inferno?

It did start out as an Inferno fanfic... 

[General Battuta]

Kinda

[MatthTheGeek]

* BP3 is now known as INFR1: Anniversary

[Alex Heartnet]

Fedayeen aren't GTI, they're a separate organization set up by the Ubuntu party. The GTA in Sol collapsed after the destruction of the node.

How do we know that the Fedayeen were set up by the Ubuntu party, per se?  I doubt that the GTI's black ops network would just vanish just because their government goes under.  Rather then expending a great deal of resources to set up a new intelligence agency, Ubuntu might of just decided to make use of an existing spy network.

[General Battuta]

The Fedayeen became A Thing after meetings between Ubuntu Party leaders, FS1 Alpha 1, and the Vasudan survivors of the attack on the Lucifer. That said, many Ubuntu party founders were graduates of the GTI's Human Futures Project think tank.

[MatthTheGeek]

It's pretty likely that GTI agents ended up in the Fedayeen just because they had the required skillset and convictions, just like many former GTA officiers ended up in the UEF navy.

[FireSpawn]

Maybe the Secret Project is some sort of energy projection device that will use the Sol node as a starting point, then project outwards from one node to another- causing the universe to blow up in one of three colours chosen by the protagonist. 

[swashmebuckle]

OK, I'm calling it, secret project = full on double ETAK rainbow, all the way across the dimension, and in BP3 you figure out what it means.  The greedy GTVA tries to take over the (Sol) theater, but they can't stop the Rainbow Connection and it comes through the roof, with casualties in the billions.

[CT27]

Another analogy I thought of since we've been talking about historical examples/analogies somewhat recently:

The Native Americans were conquered and treated fairly harshly by the US over the years.  However, even then there were Native Americans who fought bravely for the US in WW1 and WW2.


I'm not saying it's a perfect analogy or that in a GTVA-victory scenario that relations will be rosy.  But I'd be willing to guess that some former UEF people would be willing to serve in the GTVA military and not always be plotting rebellion.

[Aardwolf]

I don't get this rainbow stuff, thinking maybe it's a reference to katamari? (which I haven't played and know virtually nothing about) Or what?