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Should We Have a Home for Homeworld at HLP?

Yes.
35 (72.9%)
No.
7 (14.6%)
Apathetic.
6 (12.5%)

Total Members Voted: 48

Voting closed: June 04, 2002, 07:52:45 am

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Offline Rampage

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I have been waiting to post this for some time now.  I have noticed that many of the members here at Hard Light Productions are also members of the dying Homeworld Universe.  Its message boards are not as active as the ones here.

I have seen many threads regarding Homeworld and Homeworld Cataclysm and MODs and renders regarding these games.  So I can safely mention that HLP already has an active Homeworld community in the background of things going on here.

With Homeworld as a space-science fiction classic, I strongly suggest that HLP make a home for Homeworld here.

Please consider my request.  Post below if you have comments.

 

Offline TheCelestialOne

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Yes, we should have a forum for HW. I like the game...I love the game..I... Never mind...
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Offline Fineus

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Hmm, this is pretty interesting - it's actually bringing up a point far larger than just creating a forum for HW... here's why:

At the beginning we started the site with a view to focussing on modding the FS universe and then after a year or two introducing FL to that equation. FL has fallen through (for the time being) although we've been to wrapped up in everything to remove the content from the front end. IW vaguely replaced it but there seems to be limited interest in it (and the real modding and so on is still discussed over at the Infogrames forums - which are much larger and well supported (and focused) than ours.

What you really need to do is clarify what you mean by "support" for HW (or any other game, since anyone can argue "75% of HLPers play Quake so we should support that as well". If you mean just creating a forum for it then would it really be used? Would we also cover HW art? modding? tutorials? I have to admit to not knowing jack about actually modding HW itself so some new staff might be required (certainly considering what kind of busy lives everyone has at the moment).

Could we actually start supporting a great many multiple games? could we do justice to that support (as opposed to just creating a page or two about it and saying "yes, we support Homeworld". What about hosting? if we started supporting another 2, 3, 5 games then we'd certainly grow but would we be able to justify our hosting? Most if not all of the other 3DAP sites are focused on one game or game series alone... and Homeworld and Freespace are certainly different universes and genres.

If enough people can come up with a good enough arguement then this can certainly be given careful consideration. Otherwise I fear we'd be spreading ourselves to thinly or would loose the sites focus (which admitedly is more geared toward art now, but should be balalnced soon).

 

Offline Stryke 9

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Well, for one thing FS and Homeworld have quite a bit in common, while Quake has little to do with anything, and for another both have smallish, specialized modding communities while Quake has, on my last estimate, more fanboys than there are people alive at this moment, and could do without a new modding community. HW has one, but it's not much of one, and we could probably bring something to that.

And we hardly need worry about spreading ourselves thinly. The official FS forums are effectively dead (or really dead now, I guess), so we don't have much of a recruiting pool- however, if we go HomeWorld, we can attract existing members from that community to bulk of the ranks of the HW modders. And, failing that, little or nothing of the FS community will be lost anyway- nobody already here is gonna leave because we have or don't have HW forums. As of right now, we're a smallish community supporting modding for a mildly popular but quite dead game- little else. HLP is getting old, despite the hope of user FS3 in a year or so, and expanding our focus to multiple aging games could only benefit us- besides, what happens when we run out of things to do in FreeSpace?

All in all, I think we have more pressing issues (such as actually getting a mod archive online), but since adding a HW community won't slow any of that down, really, and we really don't have any prospects of anything new and exciting happening for a good while. At the very least, this will be an interesting experiment. At best, HLP comes out better than ever, with twice the user base and twice the experience and equipment. Sounds good, no?

 

Offline IceFire

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Homeworld 2 is coming...might be cool to look into.
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Offline Fineus

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Hmm, that's a good point - since Homeworld is becoming a series there should be an influx of new people drawn by HW2... I suppose coverage of the FS and HW games and art exclusivly could be a possibilty...

 

Offline Unknown Target

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No. That's what the relic boards are for.:p

 

Offline Fury

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I don't vote for HW boards, Relic's own boards are quite active and already does have large community.

Look at IW2 forums... see? Yes, there nothing to see, it's dead...

 

Offline TheCelestialOne

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IW does NOT equal Homeworld!
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Offline Kellan

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I agree with Stryke. If nothing else, we'd bring more people into the FS Universe, particularly with HW2 on the way (*drool*).

Plus there are the cross-community modding projects on both sides - TAP here, and the FS --> Homeworld MODS too.

:yes:

 

Offline Dark_4ce

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Yeah, I agree. I don't see any harm in brining a Homeworld forum to HLP. And with Homeworld 2 on the way, I'm pritty sure it'll get a lot of traffic!
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Offline Darkage

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I voted yes...Because the game rocks and it can be modded prety easy and since it's space stuff interest wil proberly  be perty big and it proberly gives allot of opertuniti for new hosted projects.
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Offline Thorn

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Modding HW is fairly similar to modding FS... few differences.. but not many.. mainly just the animated bits of ships.... instead of .tbl files and .vp files its .shp and .big files... pof=peo/geo etc...
As for RN.. no.. thats a somewhat sterile environment.. the mere mentioning of warez results in a one week ban...
I vote yes..

  

Offline Shrike

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No.  We've been through this before with Red Faction.  There's already a Gamespy site dedicated to HW.
WE ARE HARD LIGHT PRODUCTIONS. YOU WILL LOWER YOUR FIREWALLS AND SURRENDER YOUR KEYBOARDS. WE WILL ADD YOUR INTELLECTUAL AND VERNACULAR DISTINCTIVENESS TO OUR OWN. YOUR FORUMS WILL ADAPT TO SERVICE US. RESISTANCE IS FUTILE.

 

Offline Stryke 9

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Thing is, RF and FS share only a creator- there's no legitimate saying that because you liked one, you'd like the other. Not so with FS and HW- they really do share a LOT, particularly since most of the aspects people here dig in FS, though it is a shooter, also appear in HomeWorld, though that is a strat. I-War was never really big, had no real modding potential (script editors are almost as bad as nothing at all, and there was not much motivation even to bother struggling with what there was), and was similar to FreeSpace only in the general genre. FS and HW have a lot in common that these other games just don't.

Anyway, there really is nothing to lose form broadening this community's focus. So it didn't work with I-War- and? Did we lose anything for trying? Does that rule out the possiblility that HLP can ever change, can ever be anything more than a FreeSpace Modding community?

And just because there's already a place for it doesn't mean that we shouldn't open up to it, or that it might not need some... help. This might apply, in, say, the case of the ST games, where, should we open up a section, we'd only be one of hundreds of communities, but HomeWorld doesn't really have a solid base like that, and what it has is rather dependent on the manufacturers, and thus prone to all sorts of unpleasant collapses (Imagine if the VBB had been taken down without FreeSpace Watch or HLP established and well known.)
And after all, FreeSpace already had communities when Hard Light came around, too.;)

 

Offline Shrike

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Quote
Originally posted by Stryke 9
And after all, FreeSpace already had communities when Hard Light came around, too.;)
None were on Gamespy.  That's the thing, there's already a Gamespy site for HW.
WE ARE HARD LIGHT PRODUCTIONS. YOU WILL LOWER YOUR FIREWALLS AND SURRENDER YOUR KEYBOARDS. WE WILL ADD YOUR INTELLECTUAL AND VERNACULAR DISTINCTIVENESS TO OUR OWN. YOUR FORUMS WILL ADAPT TO SERVICE US. RESISTANCE IS FUTILE.

 

Offline Thorn

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Quote
Originally posted by Shrike
None were on Gamespy.  That's the thing, there's already a Gamespy site for HW.

Which is dying...

 

Offline vadar_1

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trash the IWar 2 boards, and replace them with Homeworld boreds... they will hopefully get more posts
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Offline Stunaep

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HLP is already growing to more of a community. So why not cover  homeworld. For me (at least), because GS already has one just won't do.  We're a kickarse community, we can do better than a Planet site, right??? :nod:
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Offline Unknown Target

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Don't get me wrong, I love HW. I even used to be an extremely active member of the community, and still am.
However, I really don't think that there should be a HW board on HLP, because we'd only be pulling members awaay from the main community to bolster ours=makes the general community probably smaller, especially there.
However, I'm pro if we relax the moderation, or at least keep it to HLP standards in the HW boards.
I say this because the Relic board moderation sucks.
It's too strict. I was banned because I said a phrase more than three times in one post....
My 2 cents...;)