[jadeddragoon]

I'd just like to say, after playing WiH (Part 1?) again and for the record, the ending of Delend Est and Sunglare PISSES ME RIGHT THE %^@# OFF!

• The Wargods have been gutted
• The last chance to turn the tide against the TEVs turned into crushing blow for the UEF instead
• The Vasudans are in the war against us raising the TEV's already insurmountable warmachine to the power of 2
• Moral is officially crushed
• Ng'Mei is dead
• Simms is possibly (probably?) dead
• The Elders are still playing their indecipherable game of chess with the fate of humanity
• The mysteries surrounding Laporte are still not even close to being answered
• The Fedayeen have popped out of the mists of myth with no more than a "hi, how are you? we only came case the fate of the human race rests on the shoulders of one of your fighter jockeys... the rest of you could fall into the sun for all we care" for explanation

I swear to god I'm gonna paint the night sky of every planet in the bodies and refuse of the lot of them. Screw Ubuntu, screw The Damned Elders, and triple @#$%ing screw the TEVs with the pointy end of Byrne's precious Solaris. I'll fill the empty space between worlds with the blood of them all and not once regret a single bullet, ray, beam, or missile... save those that miss. Were bloody hell is part two already? I need to make some one bleed.

/rant

no in all seriousness... Blue Planet was pretty cool... but War in Heaven is just flat out epic. And while I really am a hairs breadth from pulling my hair out waiting for the conclusion I'd not rush the process if my life depended on it. The ending really does piss me off btw... but in a good way. :-P

Till then...

[Klaustrophobia]

 

[Rodo]

what's happening here?

*takes a look*

YEAH, IT'S RANTING TIME BABY!

 

[Drogoth]

 

I actually cheered when the Imperieuse jumped in. After shouting profanities at my computer throughout the mission when I thought the Wargods were going to pull it off.

I also failed the mission twice because I refused to disarm the Iolanthe or Deneira.

[Alex Heartnet]

Now, how can things get even worse from here?

- The destruction of a UEF Destroyer while Laporte is present trying to defend it
- The Vasudan logistics ship finding out about the GTVA plot, only to get destroyed before they can inform the rest of their fellow Vasudans.
- Admiral Steele actually surviving the war and never dying at the hands of ANY foe, be it UEF or Shivan
- The UEF War Machine getting crushed, and Laporte being forced to go into hiding and fight like the GEF were
- Naomi getting further character development (Before the beginning of Delenda Est, she stated her current reason for fighting was to help her now-dead comrades.  She will have to re-think her motives for fighting - yet again)
- UEF super project troubles!  Mission dialogue in The Plunder suggests that the UEF are at least not stupid enough willing to put all their eggs in one basket, so if part of their project gets destroyed it might not be a completely fatal blow
- The destruction of Serkr Team at the hands of some new threat
- Subspace-induced ship collisions!  Remember Dive Dive Dive?  Some UEF fighter wings might not be so quick to react...
- A darker side of Ubuntu gets shown.  Having a philosophy, a religion, and a political party all ruled into one just seems like a pretty good recipe for authoritarian control....
- In fact, we can expect to find dark motives behind the actions of -every- faction in the game, if the general mood of the mod is any indication.
- Project Nagari has loads of potential to be extra creepy/horrifying
- Solis Lacus camp, anyone?  GTVA soldiers are probably afraid of it for a very good reason.
- Orbital Bombardment of Earth itself, at the hands of something that is not Shivan.  The irony of the GTVA destroying Earth is just too good to pass up.
- Some other plot developments that the Blue Planet team has no doubt already come up with

I don't expect to see the Shivans show up until near the very end.  Way too much drama and plot threads hanging for the Shivans to show up just yet.

We can of course count on seeing yet more friendly warships getting destroyed at the hands of the GTVA.  War is hell.

[QuakeIV]

I actually cheered when the Imperieuse jumped in...

While I agree with the sentiment that the UEF are all morons, I was actually pretty into the game.  Even later, I was just annoyed because I have to go through so much trouble to protect those stupid weak-ass frigates then a destroyer jumps in and deus ex machinates 3/4 of them anyways.

e: I LOVE watching a video of the incident though.

[General Battuta]

deus ex machinates

well not so much

[QuakeIV]

deus ex machinates

well not so much

Spell correct offered that and it sounded silly enough so I went for it.

[General Battuta]

No I just mean it's not a deus ex machina, that is a different thing - a dramatic device that never to my knowledge occurs in BP2. This is more of a peripeteia.

A lot of BP2 is structured along classical Greek lines (Aristeia is a great example of this in miniature). It's illuminating to hunt for the moment of anagnorisis - has Laporte achieved it yet?

[Ravenholme]

I actually cheered when the Imperieuse jumped in. After shouting profanities at my computer throughout the mission when I thought the Wargods were going to pull it off.

I also failed the mission twice because I refused to disarm the Iolanthe or Deneira.

*fist bump*

Me too.

And Steele surviving the war would be it getting better, Alex. He's my favourite magnificient bastard character by far.

[qwadtep]

deus ex machinates

well not so much

Spell correct offered that and it sounded silly enough so I went for it.

When you think about it, it's a pretty literal fit for the Vishnans.

[LordPomposity]

No I just mean it's not a deus ex machina, that is a different thing - a dramatic device that never to my knowledge occurs in BP2. This is more of a peripeteia.

A lot of BP2 is structured along classical Greek lines (Aristeia is a great example of this in miniature). It's illuminating to hunt for the moment of anagnorisis - has Laporte achieved it yet?

The Imperieuse showing up certainly wasn't a deus ex machina.

The Imperieuse showing up after having had a sheath shielding system installed, on the other hand...

More seriously, anagnorisis: I'd place Laporte's in the Delenda Est fiction viewer (where, as usual, it precedes the peripeteia). Her realization about why she fights (for her fellow wargods) actually has a big impact on how Delenda Est unfolds, because we see that's why the rest of the Wargods are fighting, too. If the captains of the Altan Orde, Katana, Insuperable, and Kyoto had been fighting primarily out of bloodlust or even for the UEF's cause, they would have rammed all four of their ships into the Carthage one after another and reduced it to scrap metal. They were right on top of it, and the Imperieuse and Hydra weren't close enough to open fire in time to stop them. Instead, they decided to give up their chance to finish the mission in favor of buying a few of their comrades a small chance to escape. It's a testament to Steele's abilities as a military psychologist that he knew the Wargods' mindset with enough certainty that he felt he could set up his trap in such a way that he would have almost certainly lost the Carthage if he had been wrong.

Laporte's fairly smart, so she'll probably figure out that her way of thinking turned what could have been a draw or a Pyrrhic victory into the most crushing defeat since the fall of Jupiter. I'm curious to see how this affects her, and what she'll do if she's presented with a similar choice. You most make R2.

[Crybertrance]

Screw Ubuntu, screw The Damned Elders, and triple @#$%ing screw the TEVs with the pointy end of Byrne's precious Solaris.

I would like to see that.

However am I the only one that supports the UEF?

[MatthTheGeek]

Nah, all humans in their right mind support the UEF. Unfortunately, humans aren't the most vocal out here...

[Black_Yoshi1230]

Screw Ubuntu, screw The Damned Elders, and triple @#$%ing screw the TEVs with the pointy end of Byrne's precious Solaris.

I would like to see that.

However am I the only one that supports the UEF?

1. I wonder what the Vasudan package given to Laporte is. And whatever the Elders' mystery plan is, I'd like to see it blow up in their faces. I think at this point, state secrets are really going to make a lot of pilots throw up in their breather masks. (Or worse, players spitting coffee or soda all across their screens.) Kyle's gonna be pissed off if he finds out too much ground was given up for something nuts.

2. Your question presents a fuzzy situation to me.

The story as I see it:

Say your little brother came back home from someplace out in the field that sucked. Now he wants to take your room. And he's so bitter, he'll want that room or else he'll tear up the whole house. But you don't want to give him your room because he's going to dig into places you don't want and end up with it trashed.

The grand question is: who the heck's going to sleep on the couch?

[MatthTheGeek]

You forgot the "Your brother started by punching you in the face and then asked for stuff" part.

[Scotty]

You forgot the "Your brother filled up your room while you were gone with hookah and potsmoke as part of a re-envisioning of his image after you moved out" part.

See?  I can make nonsensical and ridiculously generalized statements too.

[CT27]

However am I the only one that supports the UEF?

I'd say no.  There's a fair bit of support for each faction (for the record I'm one of the Tev supporters).

[Drogoth]

I actually cheered when the Imperieuse jumped in. After shouting profanities at my computer throughout the mission when I thought the Wargods were going to pull it off.

I also failed the mission twice because I refused to disarm the Iolanthe or Deneira.

*fist bump*

Me too.

And Steele surviving the war would be it getting better, Alex. He's my favourite magnificient bastard character by far.

^ This. Steele is a boss.

On the topic of the brother thing, he also needs your room because he's going to use it as an office to start a home business in order to feed your family when the economic crash he knows is coming happens. He needs the resources your room offers in order to protect the entire family.

[Crybertrance]

I actually cheered when the Imperieuse jumped in. After shouting profanities at my computer throughout the mission when I thought the Wargods were going to pull it off.

I also failed the mission twice because I refused to disarm the Iolanthe or Deneira.

*fist bump*

Me too.

And Steele surviving the war would be it getting better, Alex. He's my favourite magnificient bastard character by far.

^ This. Steele is a boss.

On the topic of the brother thing, he also needs your room because he's going to use it as an office to start a home business in order to feed your family when the economic crash he knows is coming happens. He needs the resources your room offers in order to protect the entire family.

Yea, So first he trashes the hella outa your room, crippling the base infrastructure and then rebuilds it all from scratch using up already low resources?