[MatthTheGeek]

Also, huuuuge energy consumption.

[General Battuta]

Maxims on capship turrets is madness.

[Aesaar]

Salty: The Tornado is better than the Dirk.  The Dart, on the other hand, is an excellent dogfight weapon because it's perfect for snap shots.  Harpoon is a better all-round missile than the Javelin, and I'd choose it all situations.

I'm told the Shrike might be getting a rebalance, so I won't comment on it.

The Rapier is nearly identical to the Kayser in performance.  Which means it's useless for the GTVA fleet.  Not worth making ships compatible with it.  Same goes for the Maul and Prom S.

For the AAA, yeah. But the blobs? I'm skeptical. Pulse turrets are actually pretty decent against warheads; though somewhat inaccurate, they have good range, good rate of fire, much better velocity, and each shot does substantial damage. So even if TT2's are a bit better at warhead intercept, STerPulse's can do (roughly) almost as well on top of good point defense against fighters/bombers and a light secondary anti-ship armament.

No, they can't.  Most bomber-launched missiles are too small for TerPulse/STerPulse to hit reliably.  The TT2 doesn't have this problem.  It's essential until PDTerPulse can replace it.

As for Maxims, Phantom and Matth provide acceptable reasons.

[SaltyWaffles]

Salty: The Tornado is better than the Dirk.  The Dart, on the other hand, is an excellent dogfight weapon because it's perfect for snap shots.  Harpoon is a better all-round missile than the Javelin, and I'd choose it all situations.

Yeah, that's what I said. I was comparing the Dirk to the Hornet, but it is pretty pointless at this point (by now Tornado is cheap/common enough to pretty much replace the Hornet entirely, I imagine).

No, they can't.  Most bomber-launched missiles are too small for TerPulse/STerPulse to hit reliably.  The TT2 doesn't have this problem.  It's essential until PDTerPulse can replace it.

Hm? I've seen a lot of torps get shot down by pulse turrets in various situations--it's not exactly good, but it's decent.

[General Battuta]

I don't think the Hornet is used at all in WiH.

[SaltyWaffles]

I don't think the Hornet is used at all in WiH.

Yeah, on second thought (and a 'duh' moment), it'd probably be limited to policing and rear-line stuff at best, at this point.

[Aesaar]

Hm? I've seen a lot of torps get shot down by pulse turrets in various situations--it's not exactly good, but it's decent.

  You sure?  TT2s and STerPulse look very similar.  Moreover, multiple STerPulse tends to be mounted covering the same fire arc, where the sheer number of shots fired means one is bound to hit.  That doesn't make it a good intercept weapon.

[Black_Yoshi1230]

I don't think the Hornet is used at all in WiH.

Yeah, on second thought (and a 'duh' moment), it'd probably be limited to policing and rear-line stuff at best, at this point.

The Tornado does everything the Hornet does but better (which is probably the most appealing part of flying the GVF Tauret). Just lock and fire. Hornets I believe would just be in ample supply for the fringe fleets (I don't think the Core World Fleets would have any use for them anymore with their zealous overproduction, unless civilian contractors can't get all the next-gen cool toys and they get what's left).

Besides, Hornets? Death by bees. Most of the Terran Great War props were already phased out (I wish there was a nicer sendoff for the Medusa than just three sentences saying how crap it was by FS2), so...

Maxims on capship turrets is madness.

Hmm... let me think of a hand-wave. Power draw, plus if it's a mass accelerator in technicality, where are they going to get the blocks of... dammit, what's the term... fireable stuff?

TT2s and STerPulse look very similar.  Moreover, multiple STerPulse tends to be mounted covering the same fire arc, where the sheer number of shots fired means one is bound to hit.  That doesn't make it a good intercept weapon.

Someone remind me which turret is the one that looks like it shoots Blue Shivan shots and has the impact animation of the Maxim.

[Klaustrophobia]

Hmm... let me think of a hand-wave. Power draw, plus if it's a mass accelerator in technicality, where are they going to get the blocks of... dammit, what's the term... fireable stuff?

uranium slugs.

as for the "blue shivan shot" that sounds like the pulse turret.  don't know about it having maxim impact animation though.

[Aesaar]

Neither has Maxim impact effect, but the Pulse weapons basically look like slightly glowier TT2 shots.

I'd say to check the F3 techroom if you want to compare, but they're both off the screen on anything smaller than a 24" monitor.

EDIT: here:

STerPulse



TT2

[rubixcube]

Just out of curiosity, was the Sterpulse and Terpulse based of something similar in Procyon Insurgency?

[General Battuta]

Nope, don't think so. They don't behave much like the Procyon Insurgency guns iirc.

Also those screenshots don't account for two things:

1) pulse guns have distinctive ring trails like the Akheton

2) the pulse graphics have been changed internally to be more distinctive

[rubixcube]

Nope, don't think so. They don't behave much like the Procyon Insurgency guns iirc.

Yes I think there was, TTurretCannon it was called, had the exact same table entries except velocity was 2200 vs 1200m/s

Also those screenshots don't account for two things:

1) pulse guns have distinctive ring trails like the Akheton

2) the pulse graphics have been changed internally to be more distinctive

yes i would agree with you on that

[Phantom Hoover]

Pulse guns also have FoF so they're significantly inaccurate at longer ranges. I don't think the PI guns had that.

[rubixcube]

Yes they did, they had a FOF of 0.75 just like Terpulse guns, they just had a much higher velocity so it wasn't as apparent.

[General Battuta]

Yes they did, they had a FOF of 0.75 just like Terpulse guns, they just had a much higher velocity so it wasn't as apparent.

Pulse guns didn't have a FOF when they first shipped, Fury patched that in later.

[rubixcube]

would that be for balancing reasons?

[Darius]

Back when I was starting AoA I used some R1 Inferno weapons as a base for the new weapons, and tweaked them as I needed them. PI's turret may well have been used as the terpulse base.

[Phantom Hoover]

You do love your blue weapons.

[Black_Yoshi1230]

[sarcasm]It wouldn't be called Blue Planet if stuff were purple, eh?[/sarcasm]

I wonder, if we ever get past the Alliance/Federation Civil War arc, I wonder if we're going to see new fluff readings for the Vasudan ships and see if they were able to chalk up a new warship or two.

Seriously, during that one mission with the Pesjedet (dammit, I can't spell), I was thinking "yay, we might see Serapi or Taurets blowing up Gefs."

(In all honesty, I think the Tauret should be the mainstay fighter of the Vasudan's half of the Alliance, I mean, what can't it do?)