[FlamingCobra]

Me and my buddy have been debating this for a while now, and I've decided I want to find out what you guys think. In some kind of cross-universe fight between the Shivans and the Reapers from Mass Effect, which race would win?

[General Battuta]

We lose, because we get involved in a cross-universe fight discussion

[blowfish]

Humanity is about to be wiped out by a race of cosmic destroyers called the Shivans Reapers, who periodically cleanse the galaxy of all spacefaring civilization, and our only hope of stoping them is information left behind by their last victims, the Ancients Protheans, who were annihilated by the Shivans Reapers, but discovered a way to stop them from destroying us.

[General Battuta]

Humanity is about to be wiped out by a race of cosmic destroyers called the Shivans Reapers Berserkers, who periodically cleanse the galaxy of all spacefaring civilization, and our only hope of stoping them is information left behind by their last victims, the Ancients Protheans Red Race, who were annihilated by the Shivans Reapers Berserkers, but discovered a way to stop them from destroying us.

[General Battuta]

Humanity is about to be wiped out by a race of cosmic destroyers called the Shivans Reapers Berserkers Inhibitors, who periodically cleanse the galaxy of all spacefaring civilization, and our only hope of stoping them is information left behind by their last victims, the Ancients Protheans Red Race Amarantin, who were annihilated by the Shivans Reapers Berserkers Inhibitors, but discovered a way to stop them from destroying us.

[General Battuta]

Humanity is about to be wiped out by a race of cosmic destroyers called the Shivans Reapers Berserkers Inhibitors Great Old Ones, who periodically cleanse the galaxy of all spacefaring civilization, and our only hope of stoping them is information left behind by their last victims, the Ancients Protheans Red Race Amarantin Elder Things, who were annihilated by the Shivans Reapers Berserkers Inhibitors Great Old Ones, but discovered a way to stop them from destroying us.

[Beskargam]

Humanity is about to be wiped out by a race of cosmic destroyers called the Shivans Reapers Berserkers Inhibitors Great Old Ones flood, who periodically cleanse the galaxy of all spacefaring civilization, and our only hope of stoping them is information left behind by their last victims, the Ancients Protheans Red Race Amarantin Elder Things forerunners, who were annihilated by the Shivans Reapers Berserkers Inhibitors Great Old Ones flood, but discovered a way to stop them from destroying us.

hopeful?

[deathfun]

That settles it. It's a war between ALL of the parties

Imagine a Shivan Flood hybrid. Dear god

[The E]

We did that, once. There's a thread dedicated to that discussion in this forum; It's also a good example of why cross-universe debates are completely ****ing stupid.

[TrashMan]

Aren't VS debates in general made from 99% stupid?
I've seen so many argument of infinite stupidity in such debates that I was struck deaf, blind, mute and stupid by mere exposure.

B.t.w. - Batts, you're my hero

[MatthTheGeek]

There are VS debates that can be legitimate and even interesting. Cross-universe VS debates are not among them.

[yuezhi]

Humanity is about to be wiped out by a race of cosmic destroyers called the Shivans Reapers, who periodically cleanse the galaxy of all spacefaring civilization, and our only hope of stoping them is information left behind by their last victims, the Ancients Protheans, who were annihilated by the Shivans Reapers, but discovered a way to stop them from destroying us.

You forgot the NTF Cerberus and Bosch Beer The Elusive man.

[The E]

No, he didn't.

[esarai]

Just from a personal perspective, I've always viewed the Reapers as a cheap imitation of the Shivans.  Same basic villain archetype with all the mystery and ominous removed or campified.

Also from a firepower perspective, Shivans wipe the floor.  Reapers have to descend like locusts onto one world to slowly tear it down, whereas a Shivan superdestroyer + destroyer team managed to completely glass a planet and destroy most fleeing vessels inside of 13 hours.  That was just two capital ships, and we have yet to see what would happen if a Sathanas turned its guns planetside.

[Luis Dias]

I'm betting on the Borg.

[The E]

we have yet to see what would happen if a Sathanas turned its guns planetside.

I'm betting on the Borg.

The thought of shivan beams fired on a planet causing Borg is hilarious

[Gray113]

Does not matter which evil aliens intent on humanities destruction fight each other because 1 man - obi-john-tiberius-sheppard-blair callsign alpha 1 will be there to put an end to their evil schemes.

Leaving all the other puny humans that could not defend themselves before to take over the galaxy in an evil empire that will dominate all the other races until a brave band of rebels lead by one woman - obi john tiberius sheppard blair callsign alpha 1's daughter naomi-luke-jeanluc-sheridan callsign neu-alpha 1 take them down.

[wistler]

First person to bring up weapon yields and the word gigaton losses. Oh wait... I just did!

[Luis Dias]

All the xenocidal species will be utterly confused when they reach humanity and the first thing they see is Pickard fighting Alpha 1 fighting Shepard fighting  etc on who's gonna save the fkin world. Oh wait, that movie was already made.

[deathfun]

Alpha 1 didn't stop a fleet of Sathanas' from blowing up a sun

I think Shivans win because they can make suns ****ing explode
Scratch that, I know they win because they weren't actually stopped... just delayed