[Scourge of Ages]

I guess the subject says it all. The re-boot of the classic console franchise is out in the open now. Have some links:

http://www.policymic.com/articles/43527/xbox-1-the-new-xbox-is-unveiled-and-this-is-what-it-looks-like
http://money.cnn.com/gallery/magazines/fortune/2013/05/21/meet-the-new-microsoft-xbox.fortune/index.html
http://www.theverge.com/2013/5/21/4350662/new-xbox-has-no-backwards-compatibilty
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/407912/microsoft-confirms-pre-owned-fee-for-xbox-one/

Thoughts?

[BloodEagle]

What in the Hell is going on with these companies, lately?

It's like they fired all of the competent people, kept on the ancient suits to make terrible decisions, and hired a bunch of inexperienced (at best) kids just out of college to actually make the stuff.

[MatthTheGeek]

Let the haet begin.

[Beskargam]

er. In what way?

 I do like how they actually presented the physical console compared to Sony.

Sad that I can't play 360 games on it. Hope they make like Sony and stream those or something.

Don't care about live action halo series.

Like the new controller.

[NGTM-1R]

Don't care about live action halo series.

If it's as good as Forward Unto Dawn, I'm cool with it.

[Beskargam]

I kinda forget about that. I did like that. For the reveal, I am more interested in the games though.

[Mongoose]

All other things aside, the name is pretty damn stupid.  Like, didn't we already have an XBox "One"?  Came out around 2001 or so?

[An4ximandros]

 All of this and not a single mention of the always connected Kinect and the MS "surveillance"? You missed out on an excellent chance to reference 1984 as well. Shame.

 EDIT:

Rei7 (Kotaku) They called it Xbox One cause they just took 359 steps backwards.

[BritishShivans]

it's..... a ****ing vcr?

i don't understand

it's just this black shiny box

wat

[Polpolion]

it's..... a ****ing vcr?

i don't understand

it's just this black shiny box

wat

TBH I like that aesthetic more than the weird curvy crap that the 360 and PS3 were. But that's just me, as long as it works I guess it's fine.

[Phantom Hoover]

it's..... a ****ing vcr?

i don't understand

it's just this black shiny box

wat

MINIMALISME

[Dark Hunter]

Not seeing much I care about.

I have no gripes with its look. I mean, who the hell cares what it looks like? It's what it does that's important.

Watch live TV, movies, and surf the web? Yeah, don't care, computer does all that already. Besides, Live TV is dying a slow death due to the Internet, so that's not really worth much.

New Kinect? It was a gimmick on the 360, it's a gimmick now. The voice commands are mildly interesting, but still sound primitive and clunky.

No backwards compatibility? Unfortunate, but I can understand the reasons why. Still, it's disappointing that MS is doing absolutely nothing to make older games playable on the new system, while Sony is.

I'm still waiting to see what the final verdict is on the whole used games deal, as there seems to be a lot of conflicting information flying around on that subject at the moment.

As for the games, zero interest in any that they mentioned. I realize it's still early and a release list is way far off, but the opening round isn't promising.

On the whole, the PS4 is looking like the winner at the moment. We'll have to see.

[Black Wolf]

Always been a Playstation guy, and I've not seen anything so far that makes me want to change. The fee for secondhand games sounds like an enormous off putter - I initially thought it was going to be 5 bucks or whatever - a token amount to make second hand games less competetive with things like the platinum range, but the articles imply it'll be full game price. Bugger that. Admittedly, it wouldn't be a huge factor for me, as I only have... I think 2 second hand games as it is? But still...

[Phantom Hoover]

honestly black wolf, as if any major media corporation would consider adapting to a non-scarce digital market by changing their business models rather than trying to pretend they're still selling you brand new physical discs in the early 90s

[karajorma]

The requirement of a net connection seems to be the most hilarious thing about this release. Everything MS have said about how often it needs to connect seems to say "We're still trying to figure out how much we can **** people over and still have them buy one."

[Mongoose]

Honestly the only new system I'm really interested in is the Wii U, primarily because Ninty's first-party mainstays are the only exclusives I truly care about.  (Now if only the poor thing would get some of said games released for it...) I might pick up a PS3 at some point for a few of those series I've missed, but other than Halo and Gears, does the XBox line even have much exclusivity to be noted?

[An4ximandros]

Microsoft's strategy in a nutshell

[Lorric]

Will the other companies apply similar restrictions? If not, it might as well be the Xbox One and Done, it's going to get crushed.

And let's not forget mandatory installation. How much will these take up? How much to fill up the 500gb? Games are getting fatter. Will you be able to uninstall and move your games around/finish with certain games, or need a 2nd machine?

[An4ximandros]

So far Sony seems to be "the cool guy" around.

[General Battuta]

The PS4 seems like it has a real technical advantage in the way the PS3 didn't, maybe even over current and near future PCs. Interested to see how the status quo mixes up.